Arne Slot - Head Coach (Part 2)

Say that the fans do get behind him and give him a clean slate. Would it make a difference in regard to the team’s performances? Would it make him the coach we thought he was in his first months in charge?

We as fans could give him all the goodwill in the world; it wouldn’t change the fact that he’s not good enough for Liverpool. If anything, the longer he stays, the bigger the damage is.

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The thing is that we are so removed that we don’t know. If Slot is maintained, I do believe there will be legitimate reasons.

Based on past history, I find it hard to believe that the owners are stupid. For example, it could be that the locker room is split between Mo and Slot. It could be something else. But whatever it is, they would not retain him without a reason.

Keith Lemon anyone?

If nothing else, the players might actually be able to pull off a few laughs in training again.

Has Slot gone yet? Along with Hughes and Edwards.

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Let’s not pretend it’s only been rubbish since this year. Last year, for the most part, we were already playing that mind-numbingly boring, possession-based football at a snail’s pace. However, our opponents didn’t have an answer to that back then – that was our luck, combined with City’s complete collapse. He threw away the FA Cup away to Plymouth by starting with the U23s and having nothing but the U21s on the bench. In the League Cup final, we were outplayed by Newcastle in terms of hunger and motivation, and we were completely outclassed by PSG.

I see no reason whatsoever to expect things to be much different next season. Hughes tried to sell Slot as a ‘Klopp light’, but he’s nothing more than a timid manager who plays not to lose rather than to win.

Get rid of that man as soon as possible.

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Hang on Woolton mate, let me just hit the F5 key for the 844th time today…

…nope, afraid not.

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If you replace Grim with Slot that’s pretty much like for like.

I would say the report about him or the players and the club had chose him would be utterly shocking decision by people who genuinely make decent decisions for the most part.

So as much as some types wanted to believe it, it’s likely bollocks.

I could see the club doing a fresh start, all the players leaving probably have at most a year with the club. One of my major concerns is he doesn’t seem interested even with injuries of trying out an alternative. Klopp was as stubborn at first but the crisis season I think changed a lot of that.

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The concern I have is the thought that Slot’s success is going to be inextricably linked to the success of the guy who hired him. I dont know this is the case, I am not sure I even believe it is the case, but I can see a scenario where Hughes feels backed into a corner where the only way for his tenure to come out as a success is if the guy he hired and spent lavishly to support ends up a success and so continues to back him for self serving purpose despite all the evidence to the contrary of him needing to go.

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If that’s how he plans his tenure to run then he also needs the sack.

Keeping someone out of their depth because it might look bad on you. I would assume Edwards or FSG would cut them both if that’s the case.

I think it’s more the fact that all the media noise is from Slot and/or Hughes it may entirely be credible or it might not be how FSG are thinking.

You wouldn’t run a coffee shop like that let alone a football club.

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And by trying Nat Phillips and Rhy Williams at CB, it gave us the chance to go all the way into the finals of the 21/22 UCL.

Without that try, we might have been in the Europa league and we might not see the crazy spending we saw last summer.

Klopp learnt a huge deal about relying on kids and squad players that saw us winning the Carabao cup subsequently.

That’s always a worry in these situations, but that’s why it’s not just on Hughes. Edwards and FSG also have a say here.

It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that Hughes is also left with one year on his deal, with no signs of an extension, and all indications linking him with a move to Saudi or elsewhere. Rumors saying Hughes never planned to extend and was only committed for three years (total bollocks). All sounds like a man looking for a golden parachute right before he gets pushed out of the plane.

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The sunk cost fallacy then?

The problem I see at the moment is that we spent a shitload on some very good players, the fact that they aren’t performing is down to the training regime, and bad luck to an extent.

The club really needs to be determining how we can get the best out of the existing squad, because otherwise they will simply end up throwing good money after bad.

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I think Hughes can quite rightly point to having hired the manager who softened the blow of losing Klopp about as well as anyone could have hoped.

Yes it’s gone south since then but the appointment of a manager who wins you a league title is ultimately a success. If he follows that up with CL qualification that’s minimum objective met in his second season.

You don’t expect to hire a manager who’ll give you 7-10 years. You can hope it’ll happen but when the average tenure of a PL manager is less than three years I doubt there’s anyone asking Hughes to justify how he came to the decision to appoint Slot or any undue pressure to keep him to avoid losing face.

If Slot goes this summer he’s done the job we needed. Steady the ship in the aftermath of Klopp leaving, oversee the departures of some aging stars, qualify for the CL and win a trophy.

I’d still move on from him and I hope Hughes does too.

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Steady the ship? Do you really think that is a reasonable description of the state of affairs with where we are going into this summer?

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I think (or hope) Rab is referring to how Hughes and the club could sell Arne stepping down this summer. :face_with_peeking_eye:

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One thing I feel we need to keep in the back of our mind, is that John Henry is no mug when it comes to driving us, and his club to the top. The guy obviously formed a plan on reviving us from day one, and with that, it needed the patience necessary to unravel the blueprint for success…

Regards Slot, yes I think he will be afforded this patience from FSG to see how he shows next season… but I also think this will be because Slot is not immune from spouting some of his own ‘clouds-in-the-sky’ bullshit about how he will actually turn this shit-show culture from becoming the norm… To me, early season results will become the benchmark and as such, if/when the Slot masterplan shows no sign of happening, at some point he will then get jettisoned out of Anfield.

As fans what we are witnessing, is that it has been possible over a short period of time, to turn a well run club into something hardly anyone can recognise anymore. If it was my investment money at risk, and if wishes were fishes, I would be looking to return to the winning formula - that being the wizard that is Jurgen Klopp..!
Plead for him to come back for 3 seasons. Bring Stevie G as his apprentice and get him to knuckle down and learn how to manage a club the size of LFC for continuity…

The day Klopp announces he’s leaving someone tells you that in the next two seasons you’ll win a league title one season and qualify for the CL in the other. At that moment we’d all take that as being about as good as you could wish for.

You look at how others have fared with totemic managers leaving after periods of success and how long it’s taken them to adjust. And you look at how deep Klopp had to go personally to lift us to where he did and the size of vacuum he was going to leave.

So yeah, I’d have taken this because I expected the drop off to be quicker and harder than it has been. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t move on from him this summer though.

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Yeah that’s what I was getting at. He’s bridged the gap between Klopp and the chasm that was going to come after him and probably exceeded some expectations along the way. It’s turned sour now but that isn’t to say it’s been the wrong decision overall.

It’s fair to say Slot deserves some credit for winning the title last year.

But I don’t think the ship is steady at the moment. It appears to be drifting. Lost at sea.

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