There’s definitely truth in what you say. I’m sure there would have been some folks who reacted that way if they weren’t there.
All I can say that I wouldn’t have been one of them because I would have understood that there was little to be gained by watching that team be put to the sword last night. I would have been happier to know that they were working at Kirkby - or hell, even spending time time together to lift their collective spirits.
But I get your point, especially when considering the supporters who traveled to Anfield last night to watch that and especially those who stayed to the end singing YNWA. It is our club’s anthem, after all.
I appreciate what you are trying to say but come Christmas if there isn’t a drastic improvement and it keeps going south we may only have the FA cup left to play for and thats nothing short of disastrous.
There is a video on youtube from The Athletic FC titled “Why do Liverpool keep losing games?”, which has some clear points on things we’ve been discussiong. Didn’t see it referenced yet, apologies if so (and if the source is crap, I’m not very familiar with them); link is Why do Liverpool keep losing games?, if posted incorrectly, please add the right way or mods delete my post! Describes why the long ball is working against us and our too forward positioning, how we are missing the breadth of passing from Trent, why Wirtz is struggling with impact, how Mo is being impacted by the changes, etc. I found it enlightening and if accurate, could point out some pretty obvious adjustments. Has fairly succinct descriptions but likely all things you tactic-philes already know! YNWA
You always want to win whatever the team is. The players gave their best shot from what I saw, but how we set up didn’t give us a great chance. Ambition that is only normal at a club like Livepool. I will never support throwing games away of any sort. And of course winning would’ve helped, there is absolutely no denying that. We’re losing games left, right and centre. That has to stop as soon as possible. Regardless of the competition.
We’ve probably matched the periods of good play with the opposition, Brentford and Palace not withstanding. It’s why Brentford did knock my hopes a bit, Man Utd we should have won and then Frankfurt, another like that and I might have thought we are showing signs but I felt it was the worst performance we’ve seen.
There is no audible discontent at all. Last night was a strange one because I imagine a huge number of regulars either sold their ticket on or didn’t bother getting one in the first place. Very few regulars around me in the Upper SKD.
We actually held our own pretty well until the 40th minute and then the wheels came off. By the time the 2nd half kicked off I think everyone could pretty much see it for what it was and it was basically damage limitation.
The ground started emptying out with about 20 minutes left but again it was all very civilized.
That said there is definately an air of discontent in the pubs and I believe on the radio phone-ins. It hasn’t permeated to inside the stadium yet but it will if things don’t improve quickly.
It’s a good piece. I think it illustrates that there is no one thing that is off and so no one thing that will fix it. Interestingly, with the focus on lack of progressive passing out of the back with the FB changes it glossed over the connected piece that has been a focus on here in recent weeks - that change at FB has changed the context for Grav and brought his relative underwhelming passing into greater focus. That is not meant as a knock on Grav but highlights the importance of complimentary pieces
Don’t think a lot are after Slot’s head on a platter yet, but do want some enlightenment as to what is going on, some things look inexplicable but may have a sound basis, team selection(horses for courses)etc.
It is a hard league and,as we are seeing can be pretty unforgiving.
Was it more the football or the weather? I noticed that people left the front rows when the rain became horizontal, but they seemed to go back when it let up.
I’ve never left a football match early, but I can remember being stuck out in the rain at Roker Park and considering it. I probably only stayed on because there was a good chance we would get a result.
A lot of people left after the sending off, including me. First time, since the Souness days, when Bristol City beat us in the FA Cup. I was punished for leaving early though, with the soaking I received walking back to the train station.
You are very optimistic here. He’ll only stay in place if he manages to steady the ship and get results again. A failure to do so, will probably still let him some more time, but only the time fsg and Edwards/Hughes need to identify a suitable replacement.
But it would be surprising if we continue on that losing streak for much longer. At some point (and maybe not that far), there will be a reaction, and a big result giving everyone confidence again.
Rodger’s 2014-15 season was an absolute shitshow, but he remained in post for the full season before being dismissed in October the following year. And this is a manager who had been a pain in the arse, strategically, from day one, never aligned with their vision, and didn’t have any credit in the back to fall back on.
You could argue that FSG were waiting for Klopp to give them the nod, and there may be some truth in that, but that doesn’t explain why they let him spend close to £50m (from memory, back when that was a lot more than it is now) on Benteke and Clyne (apparently his pick, unlike Bobby Firmino who is didn’t particularly want)
Apparently they were willing to let Hodgson have the season, until relegation became a live issue.
The only scenario in which I see FSG pulling the plug on him is if it genuinely looks like we’re spiralling into relegation concern.
Variants of ‘if he doesn’t win the next two’ or stuff like that are wide of the mark, in my opinion. That isn’t how FSG work.
. You sat through all of the Hodgson dross?