Come on Arne..got to be worth a try.
Yes, such an inspiring manager, one who connected with players and fans alike.
Obviously, Arne has a different character and temperament which didn’t matter so much last year when we were winning the title, but this year it’s more noticeable and perhaps he could or should try to engage a bit more with the fanbase, to get them onside and garner more support during this difficult period, instead of people calling for his head.
This is just my opinion, of course, and could just be a load of nonsense 
Crikey! All that money I spent over the years on mind-altering substances. Could’ve just bought some special shoes.
Isn’t it mostly the online lot… Fanbase at the ground still seem to back him, of course most of the online lot just want more money spent year after year not realising it’s dumb.
This is an interesting stat from that piece on how often teams have played the ball long out from the back against us going back over the past 7 years.
This backs up what my gut already told me - long balls shouldnt by themselves be a problem for us unless we were doing something, many things? poorly. Contrary to something that has become popular recently, long balls out from the back are not kryptonite to a high pressing team, but one of the expected results of that approach and if you are going to try to press you have to be ready to face long balls pumped down your throat. The addition of Matip and later Fab was a direct response by Klopp to improve exactly that part of our defensive game.
So what gives? It’s the qualitative aspect of the long balls. We are now being subjected to better long balls from teams who have more time to get players forward to compete for it because we’re doing so much of a worse job of getting pressure on the ball. When you are putting on effective pressure the long ball becomes a release valve for the team in possession, something they just pump forward in haste to make sure they arent losing the ball in a dangerous area. This season the teams we’re playing against are able to take their time and get their head up. They are picking their passes and not just launching it forward. Without the pressure they are executing it better. With the time they have there is the opportunity to get more bodies forward and compete for the ball.
The piece goes into other demonstrations of how badly our pressing effectiveness has fallen off which is all part of the same story. We are trying. We are committing the players forward to do it, but we’re just doing it comparatively poorly and everything rolls on from there.
Thanks, that was enlightening and shocking. Particularly the fact that in 2025 we’ve lost more away games than any other team in the league. And the fact that the only team that has conceded more goals in the five big European leagues since May is Wolves.
It’s a big mess from top to bottom.
We are top of the league in some of those stats, all the wrong ones.
This is not directed at you but generally, just taking your point on calling for Slot sacking. If we are truly believers of the song YNWA, we wouldn’t be calling the sacking of a title winning manager just because we had a shit October. Calling the losses out as they are is different from jumping from ‘fantastic season, he brought us 20’ to ‘sack him’ within a short period of time.
I’m not taking it personally, as I don’t want to see him sacked just because we’ve been having a rough patch. I can’t understand that mentality and hope I’ve never given that impression on here. I do wonder if his more reticent personality, compared to Klopp, is working against him a little at the moment, if some people cannot see that fist-shaking, chest-thumping style and mistake it for a lack of something, or that he’s not up for the fight. He’s nobody’s fool, and I’m confident that he will turn this around. As you say, if we truly feel that spirit, then now more than ever is the time to show it, not just when we’re lifting trophies.
This is my view too, but Im not engaging with sacking, but the jump from Klopp to Slot, is likely a huge gulf for the club to readjust to, and thats really only begun this time around with the dip in form. As I posted a few weeks back, the ghost of Klopp must be in the walls at Anfield. Its a massive readjustment and neither Manure or Arse coped well after Wenger and Fungus left. Both have been arguably uncompetitive for nearing a generation. Slot has a bigger problem than we are ready to admit.
YNWA is a lovely ‘go to’ and its a great ethos, but its more than just standing by someone…
YNWA refers to being with someone as they walk on…the effort is required for you not to walk alone…its not you’ll never ‘be’ alone, its you’ll never walk alone…
to me the definition of walking for the purpose of this debate is that Slot is moving in the correct direction…
winning the league bought him respect and time, but thats not a neverending pool of credit…
theres no one to replace him with anyhow so its a moot point.
hed want some kind of form bounce though or else summer might not be as relaxing as last seasons for him.
thats not calling for his sacking, its just a fact…we can leave the Man City result aside, if we lean more into the Villa and Madrid game and less into the 6 or 7 that preceded them, then he’ll be OK…
as has been pointed out, its what we look like on the park and his response to a form dip that will frame the narative, not just results…
i mean that from the angle that he cant just let the quality of the players bluff his way through the season…plenty of managers could get results with this amount of quality, we need to see the team winning games, not the players if that makes sense.
Maybe my baseline of YNWA is very low. Any player or staff associated with the club, as long they show the respect this club deserves and understand it’s a privilege to be associated with the club, as long they show they are working hard, digging their heels in, I will never call for their sacking. Results were never in my sight when it comes to this ethos. I said before even if Klopp relegated us, if he remains the Klopp he is, passionate, loves the club and people, I will not call to sack him.
That does not mean we cannot criticise performances, stubborn tactics etc as we had done to every part of th club, from owners to coaches to players. We call it as it is.
But I draw the line at calling for sackings unless the management decides it or the person shows a blatant disinterest or disrespect for us.
Of course anyone can say anything they want or express themselves on a forum, that’s a right.
Hodgson worked hard. did you agree with his termination?
I agree when the management calls it. As a fan I don’t call it unless he disrespects and goes up against the fans.
I felt sorry for Hodgson, as he had clearly walked into a basket case of a club. I don’t think his skillset was suited to what the club needed at the time. Sometimes it’s best to thank someone for their service and move on.
There were people calling for Klopp to go when he had a poor run of results after the title winning season. Some people will only sing when we are winning.
I only sing when I feel we are playing well.
I always hope we will play well.
I was singing at the start of the Shitty game for about 5 minutes as we started well, then it fell apart, I only managed a shout of joy when we scored, it was against the flow of play.
It’s not about wanting Slot gone it’s about hoping for things to pick up. There’s flagrant problems and they keep showing up. The only game where we looked dominant was against Real. We need to show that level more often.
You know what disappointed me the most about these long ball tactics? When I grew up watching football, especially in PL, you’d have players fiercely contesting them, jumping as high as possible, heads clashing, limbs flailing left and right. This season, you’d have the opponent feigning a jump in a duel with Van Dijk or Konate just to keep them off balance a bit, the two of them heading the ball away for a few yards and two opponents being on hand to pick up that second ball, while our lads were nowhere to be found. It was especially evident in the Man United game.