Absolute Bullshit.
‘Arne, we’ve decided to sack you, but can you do us a favour and remain in post until we’ve worked who we want for your job?’
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For me, it’s not a question of him being a bad manager, it’s a question of this is a difficult situation and I’m not sure he has the ability to turn it around. I thought all the sack talk was pretty reactionary, but the last two results at home have been especially concerning amidst the shower of shite we’ve witnessed since the start of October. The pressure will only increase with every game, and it’s far beyond linear at this point — it’s exponential.
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Honestly i think he has an affect that has unsettled the balance of team and honestly think some may reject him walking in and presumably being made in theory no 1 striker and one of the top earners …but thats just my thoughts
That is truly an amazing name ! So pun-worthy !
Kind of embarrasing that I haven’t hear much about him. Reading his wiki, I really, really should have!
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Very hard to know from outside the dressing room. One thing is sure though: Isak doesn’t look like a happy man on the pitch. Far from that.
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The club won’t sack Arne but ask him to stay while they’re sourcing his replacement. That’s nonsense.
But the club would source a replacement while Arne is still here. As they did with Klopp while Rodgers melted down.
If I had to guess, they’re discussing replacements and possibly putting out feelers in case Arne doesn’t turn it around. But other then Klopp himself, I’m not sure if there is an obvious choice. They apparently liked Michel and Sebastian Hoeness last time around.
Throw Isak in the Mersey! And watch our fortunes improve 
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Our first 4 wins were all earned with late goals. Three of those were in periods where the game plan had been ripped up and no one quite knew what the players were being asked to do. Take the additional points away that we won in those games in that fashion and we’re only 1 point above the relegation places and that isn’t that unfair a representation of what our plan A this season has looked like. There is very little reason to think any of this gets turned around to any reasonable degree.
We searched for something we hoped would produce marginal gains and struggled to implement that change. In efforts to get it right we tweaked and tweaked and are now so far from what made us good in the first place. Slot was not the person who built that baseline so I don’t have reason to think he can get us back to that even that if that was the direction he decided was best for us.
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Seb Hoeness could be a good shout!
At this point Bob Holness wouldnt do much worse
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23rd September? The day that Ekitike foolishly got a red for taking his shirt off, doing a Messi tribute celebration, and having a laugh and a joke with his former manager?
Just offering this as a sliding doors counterpoint to your Isak observation.
We clearly have problems as a club, and it looks more likely than not that Slot will face the chop at some point, but I am hoping he can get a result or two to give us a foothold for a turnaround.
What we haven’t seen from Slot yet is a cohesive team performance that integrates the new signings, Isak included. But I wouldn’t go overboard on pinning too much blame on Isak for the season so far. We want more from him, and it’s right to expect more, but so far, for various reasons, he has barely got going.
Apart from one or two holes, the squad we have is fantastic. However the level we are seeing is much less than what we might reasonably expect, and if that doesn’t change soon Slot will be finished here.
and 3 envelopes!
Thats Blockbusters!
Mad site that. In same thread youve got “ive heard he is staying” or “Gerrard is coming in” or “Ive heard its klopp”
Madness
I saw a comment on the bbc that said “Slot is the manager, he’s spent £450m on his players, and the buck stops with him”
I thought “He isn’t, that’s not entirely true, and I don’t know if it really does anymore”.
Partly the reason why I’m struggling to jump fully on board the Slot Out train is because I don’t think we really know where the job is that Slot does starts and ends. What is he responsible for? What is the remit of his job?
We know that in response to Klopp’s departure, the club wanted to place more of the strategy above the manager, and to that end they created the Head Coach position, and created strategic roles ahead of it. Edwards was the first appointment. He appointed Hughes. And he appointed Slot.
So it really feels to me quite important to distinguish because whether we are seeing a coaching failure, or whether we are seeing a strategy failure. Do the club still believe in the strategy and stand by the investment in the playing squad and it just hasn’t been operationalised - in which case Slot has to be in the firing line.
But if we are talking about the strategy going wrong - we bought the wrong players and sold the wrong players, then it is absolutely right the finger has to be pointed beyond Slot. And very pertinent questions to ask would be
- why was it left until deadline day to try and secure a centre back?
- why did we get embroiled in an acrimonious saga to sign a forward who would turn up months off match fitness.
- why was Ekitike signed at significant expense when we needed a wide player.
- why was Diaz sold if we weren’t going to to sign a wide player
- Why was Wirtz signed if we didn’t have the system to accommodate him?
All these question put Edwards and Hughes in the firing line as much as Slot. I think it was @Limiescouse who expressed concern that there was some hubris in how we went about the business at the club this summer, and I’m coming round to the argument. But I don’t know where the blame lies.
So yeah, we can all probably agree that Slot is in trouble, and he isn’t doing anything to suggest he can turn this round. But whatever happens from here - and I know from experience that Directors rarely point the finger at themselves - people above Slot really need to have a long hard look at themselves. Whatever has gone wrong this summer might have cost us a league winning manager who a few months ago we all thought was fucking boss. If he is sacked and a new head coach appointed they can’t do the same shit to the next one or that’s going to end in tears too.
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I would rather give Slot the season than an interim which seems to be the thing we might lean to after West ham game…if we are after Nagelsmann or Alonso.
I can’t see How does an interim help us . Doing that has more negatives than positives…I don’t want us to become the Manure 2.0
Slot deserves to go irrespective of the failures of those above him. He has come up short in areas that are solely in his department, such as tactics, setup and set pieces.
That said, it is undeniable that a greater inquiry must be undertaken starting from the very top. Questions need to be asked of Edwards appointing his mate, Hughes and Hughes needs to answer in regard to Slot’s selection and the summer recruitment.
This does seem like a collective fuck up of epic proportions and it needs to be treated as such. In the meantime, something has to be done to arrest the slide, find something to lean on and build from there.
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I think you’re right that it’s not just Slot that ought to be scrutinized, for the reasons you give. My take on all the summer activity was that ‘the management’ had all seen we’d dropped off post March, judged that we needed a tactical rethink and had bought accordingly. I couldn’t quite picture the plan, but I wasn’t a top manager who’d just one the league on their first attempt. I was looking forward to this exciting, innovative team. But maybe the management is a lot more disjointed and dysfunctional than appeared. If so, you don’t want Slot to take all the blame if that disguises incompetence elsewhere. Equally, if they’re not daft they’ll see that and so hang on to the status quo as long as possible!
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