Arne Slot - Head Coach

But it is still washing your dirty laundry in public. He can comment about his own performances, but when it comes to his relationship with Slot and the club, that should be a conversation held with the directors.

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@RedWhippet I agree with you that with the ethos of this club …we should not be not washing dirty linen in public.

But, why something like his never happened before since the day he joined. Why after 8 years it has come to this. Anyone who has experience of watching football knows a player does not become bad overnight or his legs go.

We need a bit of perspective here. Mo is also part of the senior leadership group. If you read between he lines , it’s quite evident he is being forced through the door by people upstairs and made to look like the scapegoat.

Slot is under pressure to save his job and has been instructed to drop Salah. If you read the so called ITK journos this morning…most of them already reporting, club has put him under the bus because they want a sale to fund new signings.

Also Mo did say something like promises were made in the summer. There is more to it than meets the eye…and as I said…this is conspiring to a sale for funding new signings. For me…Hughes must depart if we want Slot to go…and stop this coach title bullshit. It never ends right.

Cut 2 when we were hell bent on signing Isak…promises were done to him and everyone here supported the player should be allowed to move.

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It’s anything but evident. You are treating what Salah said as gospel. Slot dropped Salah, because Salah deserved to be dropped. He hasn’t been left out due to instructions from upper management and if this was an attempt to make him scapegoat, it was a very poor one, unless you think that the tiny minority believing that Salah is the problem, represents the entire Liverpool fanbase.

This is not to absolve Slot by the way, who must also be on his way out for failing at almost every aspect of his job. Salah made himself a disservice by going to the press, but there is definitely justified discontent within the group towards Slot.

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Salah is behaving like a prima Donna, complaining in public about being dropped and being made a scapegoat. No one has a right to be a permanent fixture, no one is above the club, the big I am. He has tarnished his reputation by being so petulant. One can only assume he is agitating for a move, having only signed a contract extension this year. If he wants to play he needs to regain his form. Otherwise he should set an example and keep his trap shut and do everything possible to support the team.

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Other than the Madrid game he has frankly been wank all season (talking about Alexis).

His arse should be firmly in the bench.

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Ok. Sell Salah if Saudi pay. Slot I am afraid cannot build a team of his own here. We need to look at recruitment. I said all summer Isac was not required. £120m! Edwards et al. Not good enough.

I think FSG have the balls to fix it.

Why does everyone want to act so surprised when a player speaks out against the manager like it’s some sort of satanism against God?

The fans know what Mo is about and how inevitable something like this was, the timing isn’t great given he’s been terrible all season but I’m glad someone’s finally called out this manager for how clueless he is, is it any wonder players and fans struggle to warm to him, not an ounce of emotion in his body.

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The same clueless manager you’ve been demanding benches salah for how long?

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He hasn’t spoken out about the manager for being clueless. He has spoken out because the manager has the temerity to drop him.

He speaks when issues reach his doormat. He has been silent. Through this whole run of form. Nada. Not a squeak. But as soon as he is out of the team - justifiably - up he pops.

He is a self-serving primadonna, and I want him gone.

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And what’s there to prove that isn’t the case.
I don’t know what truth are you waiting for ? The one that is out in front has no meaning for you…probably the one which will be engineered to make it look like ‘no player is bigger than this club’ will be the one that will please you. Happy days of losing one of the best players on the planet.

He is not an idiot, when he wants to finish his career here…will go out all the blocks to tarnish his legacy and fans now asking for a sale…guess what the funds just arrived for Semenyo and Guehi.

Salah’s comments looked very much to me trying to point the fingers upstairs. If he had a meeting with Slot yesterday, he isn’t going to come out and say stuff. He loves this club. This is not some agent driven agenda here.

I don’t and won’t believe that he deserved to be dropped completely.There are many more who deserves it. He has not been given a platform to perform this season. And I have my reasons:

  • He has been forced to hug the by line each game.
  • he has been working with 5 different Right backs in the last few months. It is not easy to just work out which space the person behind will take for you.
  • forward line was completely revamped and constant chopping and changing it isn’t gonna yield peak of any player. Teams were putting 2 defenders on him , but the coaching staff did do nothing to negate that from the use of other forwards.
  • He is suddenly the worst pressing guy in our attack when most never noticed that he never was out best pressing player. It was Bobby and Mane and then Diogo and Diaz. Counter pressing works in a group but Mo should be crucified.
  • And let’s not forget this is the guy who was in tears because of grief on matchday 1. But no, just because he is paid insane money…he should be always top.

At the end of the day, if you are going to drop your biggest player for 3 games in a row, it’s going to get a reaction. It’s either stupid from the management or a sure shot way of engineering a January sale.

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With or without Mo, he doesn’t have a clue how to make this team gel. That much is evident, why are we hanging around until things get worse to sack him?

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https://x.com/eddiegibbs/status/1997594154554065391

I really like this article cause he takes both sides into account.

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First and foremost, Salah should never have taken this public. LFC have lived by a clear creed since Shankly’s time: you keep your disputes private, you protect the club’s dignity, you never place yourself above the collective. Hearing a player of his stature lay everything bare felt jarring, because our greatest figures never let us hear their frustrations directly. That code existed for a reason. Breaking it diminishes the standards he once embodied.

Yet the spark was already set. Salah will have watched the same failing patterns the rest of us have, poor form rewarded with protection, Gakpo kept in regardless, Konate shielded despite weekly collapses. A player who has carried this club for years will wince at those choices. The persistence in selection sends a message, and it is not subtle. Slot has shown a strange defiance with underperforming favourites, and the consequences have now reached the most combustible figure in the squad.

Salah is self-serving, but that is part of what makes him great. He has always been driven by an inner argument only he can hear. His interview, his applause to the away end, and the timing of both were deliberate acts. His public jabs during last year’s contract saga were the same. Salah speaks when Salah wants to force the club’s hand. He has never pretended otherwise.

Even so, the line about having no relationship with the manager is damning. It adds to the sense that Slot has mishandled far too many players. Trent felt the coldness; Elliott felt it; Nunez felt it; Chiesa must feel it daily, yet they kept silent. Salah chose not to, which tells you how fractured the dressing room has become. This is not a passing disruption. It is a sign of a manager who has lost emotional control of his squad.

I no longer see a route back for either of them. Liverpool cannot indulge player power, even from a legend. At the same time, the club’s behaviour around Salah has hinted for weeks that they know they made an error with the renewal and have been nudging him toward the exit. This is the moment it became impossible to hide.

Slot looks isolated. The results, the mood, the senior players drifting from him, all point in one direction. The mainstream line about giving him more time feels like an attempt to protect reputations rather than confront reality. If Hughes and Edwards are not already preparing a change, their own futures will soon be questioned.

My sense now is that both Salah and Slot will be gone within the next few weeks. A sad end for one of Liverpool’s greats, and a necessary end for a manager who lost his authority long before this week.

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You’ve made your mind up. Just because you think something doesn’t make it self-evident.

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really…and you think the way the plans have been playing since the downtown in form, the clear as-day lack of effort at every position, the scared behaviour when faced with 50-50 situations, the hesitancy, the mistakes, have nothing to do with slot and his tactics and his persistent favoured selections and the confusion that has gone into the team that is clear for everyone to see?
yes, the transfer window purchases look like an incomplete set of purchases at the moment, yes there’s been a decline in performances of certain players that may have happened regardless of the circumstances surrounding the team. But if anything, Arne has exacerbated the problem. Almost everything points to confusion on his part. And that is unacceptable from a head coach.

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Haven’t we got more pressing things to write about?

Like when defending in a low block why doe all our opponents have a nice shiney double decker bus with comfy seats and we have a clapped out single decker with seats of nails?

When are we going to get the old double decker out and give a quick refresh?

Here we go again…most now asking for Salah to be sold.

What an amazing fan base we have. We act here like we are some messiah of God on this forum and any mistake from one of our own must be punished.

Mo has been heavily crucified over the last few months on this forum. At times it has felt to me like I am reading an opposition fans forums.
There are so many instances of trolling or bullying in our forums itself… shutting down people because they have a different opinion…but yeah…Mo should be sold, because he made some comments.

If there were a price for each one of us…then I guess 99 % of this forum members should be sold in Jan window for what is posted publicly. There is so much wrong with the world…Stop asking for extreme outcomes for everything that does not go the way we all want or goes against media narratives served day in day out. We need to forgive and forget sometimes.

People didn’t give a damn about grief he has to deal with.They don’t give a toss that he was stuck on wings , played with 5 different Right backs behind and a front 3 which is toothless. But Salah is the problem for every one. This is a player who loves this club. If this is how we want our best players to be treated then good luck everyone.

Blame lies with coaching staff for not able give your best player the right platform to perform and now orchestrated this idea that he is a primary donna and wants out. This prima donna won us the league last season…but yeah sell him…his legs are gone !!! Bollocks.

Just ask yourself this question before you talk about selling him…will City, Arsenal, Chelsea or United not go for him if Edwards ever invited them to bid for Mo ? If you think his legs are gone…why sell him to Saudi ? What are you scared for…selling him to a direct rival, as apparently by some his legacy is already destroyed.

The whole media…ex players Carra (including our own youtube fan channels) will want him gone now. The opposition fans want Mo to go…because they all hate him watching destroying their teams all across the league.
Sell him to City in Jan and watch him storm the league again !!! Then all of us will be happy…because our egos will be satisfied as we wanted him to be sold because he came out and spoke. ‘No player is bigger than the club narrative’ .We behave as if we never did anything wrong in our lives…!!

Have some empathy towards the players who have given so much to this club…afterall empathy is also an ethos associated with this club, is all I am asking.
Just remember one thing…if one of your family member makes a mistake or speak about their grievances…do you just throw them out or bin them ?

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I agree that this situation is ultimately of Slot’s making. I never subscribed to the prevailing theory that Salah is done physically, or that he can’t produce anymore. He has been made to look worse than he’s due to Slot’s deficiencies. And I do agree that others deserve to be dropped as well; Konate and Gakpo spring to mind immediately, but not only them. The thing is that Slot can’t drop all of them, and Salah due to his lack of work rate was more vulnerable. So, to be absolutely clear, Salah’s performances on their own merited his demotion.

The claim about FSG effectively slipping a note to Slot about who to play and who to drop, I don’t believe. Not only because it goes against everything they’ve been doing for years, but because if true, the situation is much worse than anyone thinks.

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I think it’s patently obvious to anyone who has watched us this season.

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mate I take your points. But in football, certain things are absolute truths. One of which is if you come out against the club and the manager in such a public and unequivocal way, that relationship is pretty much permanently broken. Even if Slot gets the sack, I don’t see how Mo can be a Liverpool player anymore. How do you fix that relationship? And any potential new manager coming in who know that this sort of behaviour is looking just around the corner anytime is taken off as part of a tactical sub.

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