Carra loses all objectivity when talking about LFC and tends to only look at the negatives even at the best of times. You could see he was riled up there.
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I really cannot stand him. this punditry shit has really got to his head, just like rat boy…these guys think they are more relevant than they actually are
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You mentioned great athletes a lot have their own gurus that help them with the mental side and mostly that isn’t their coach it is someone who is a professional in that field.
We were lucky with Jurgen he had it all and look why he left us, burn out because he was doing everything.
Everyone loved Rafa, not me, but he appeared even more cold than Arne.
The only aspect a coach has that should affect players is belief in the strategy and playing style, thats why I wasn’t keen on Rafa, and that maybe the one thing that could affect them mentally.
Again for me they are playing for the shirt and do everything to win.
With regards to Diogo, that is far beyond the remit of a coach/manager.
I completely understand the point about elite athletes having their own mental coaches or specialists that’s absolutely true. But in team sports, the dynamic is fundamentally different. A personal guru can help an individual, but only the coach can motivate the collective, align the group emotionally, and create shared belief in a unified strategy. That’s not optional that is the FUCKING job. In football, motivation isn’t just about shouting or hyping players up. It’s about instilling belief:
• belief in themselves,
• belief in each other,
• and belief in the manager’s game plan.
If the players don’t believe in the system, it shows and right now, based on results and performances, there doesn’t seem to be much belief in Arne’s approach. You can see it in the hesitation, the inconsistency, and the lack of intensity. That isn’t laziness it’s uncertainty. And uncertainty is always a leadership issue, not a player one.
You’re right about Klopp: he had everything tactical clarity, man-management, emotional intelligence, and the ability to make players feel ten feet tall. And yes, the burnout makes sense because he carried so much of that emotional load himself. But it also shows how central motivation is. When it’s present, players transcend their limits. When it’s missing, even talented squads look lost.
Rafa was colder, Arne appears similar, and players can adapt to that if they believe in the direction. But when belief in the strategy isn’t there, motivation doesn’t appear on its own not even when playing for the shirt. Elite professionals still need leadership that unites, inspires, and convinces them that the plan will actually work. Without that, motivation dips, confidence wavers, and performances inevitably follow.
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I see a lot of you seem to have qualifications you’ve never mentioned.
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Slot is a Dutch manager. And Dutch managers run into problems with man management. Their politeness and directness isn’t a problem when things are going well - it probably even helps maintain consistency. But it’s useless when you’re trying to navigate shattered egos or self confidence.
And you can see how Slot could feel like he’s been direct and honest with Mo, but Mo feels like he’s been frozen out.
That doesn’t excuse Mo’s behavior at all. But it also reflects that Slot might not be the man to pull us out.
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I’ve done Challenging Conversations training.
Who do I need to tell they are shit?
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I know Mourinho is more than a bit of a prat. But the clip of Materazzi and Jose hugging and crying after they won the treble by winning the CL at Inter and Mourinho was leaving always stuck with me.
Mourinho can very easily veer into the negative, but he’s the closes thing to Klopp I can think of in terms of emotionally being able to connect with his players…even if for a short period of time.
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Yeah, Mou is great at connecting with players until things go wrong and he bashes them to the press and the dressing room collapses and the form craters and then he’s sacked.
Please, I’d rather stick it out with Slot than get on the Mourinho rollercoaster that ends with the coaster driving off a cliff.
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Don’t get me wrong, I never want Jose at LFC. Even less so now. He’s a burned out husk of what he used to be. That’s a result of using up all your energies. And that’s what would have happened to Jurgen if he stayed with us. We can’t ask that of anybody.
I was just highlighting a quality of Jurgen the Mourinho has, to a lesser degree.
From everything I’ve read of Shankly, I imagine his had that high level of emotional intelligence.
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Hes a twat should have been discarded after the spitting incident.
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Well, I will agree with you there - emotional intelligence is important. And frankly, I like Mourinho as a person. His comments about Diogo were so heartfelt, and he’s a manager who wears his heart on his sleeve. I wish Slot had some of that.
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I find all this talk of looking a bit tighter is a total red herring. Against the footballing power houses of Sunderland and Leeds essentially we sacrificed the first by showing no adventure to attack.
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You should see Jose comments on Bobby Robson
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Salah seems to need that
I nearly chose Nobwiggle.
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It’s only a small sample size so it’s hard to draw conclusions. I still think I saw some improvement in the three games, sans Mo, but it’s not a hill I’ll die on.
A win and two draws was better than the preceding sequence of losses, and even though the opposition was fairly modest as you rightly note, the unfortunate record shows that we have lost to many modest teams this season.
I don’t disagree from the team ethic, but for me personal professionalism and pride in their own personal performance is a massive.
Each individual needs to be responsible for their performance and how that performance affects the whole.
If each individual does their job to the best of their ability then the whole team performs to what the the coach wants, then it comes down to the coaches tactics being right, which I do question like a lot of others.
At this moment there aren’t many of our players that are performing well individually and at the moment the individual mistakes and lapses of concentration are killing us.
Some of this may be down to the coaches setup, but a lot is down to the individual who has let their standards drop.
I, like many, don’t enjoy our lack of intensity and shape when pressing but that still doesn’t cater for the standard of what some individuals are delivering.
Would you say Pep is a good motivator or Arteta?
Does it matter if those are motivators they have little bearing on Liverpool. The question is Slot a good one and the current run seems to show he isn’t.
And if we widen the lens, last year’s title win shows he is a brilliant motivator, winning the title at a canter with a group that Jurgen took to third.
The truth is likely somewhere in between, and I think we are going to need to give it a bit more time to get a definitive answer that will either prompt the owners to sack him, or will see him continue in his job for a while longer.
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