Arne Slot - Head Coach

Pretty funny discussion on Slot and Salah by Si and Andy Cantwell.

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They look about as funny as Syphilis

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I thought there could only be one Mr Motivator -
The Legend Himself :0)

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Cheer on cheaty for one game against Real fucking Madrid so that we could get Xabi in? Absolutely would want them to win in that circumstances, not that I’d bring myself to watch them play

I’d be surprised if Xabi gets sacked so quickly, no matter what the Madrid rags put out there.

But if he does, the one thing I’d say is that there’s no better manager in the world to get the most out of Florian Wirtz.

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My mum used to love him and he motivated my mum to exercises. We need him.now! :joy:

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Exactly its 15 wins in 33 games where in any world would that be considered acceptable.

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Saw an interesting clip of Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt weighing in on this Salah thing. They made a very good point about Fergie - Beckham, Keane, Jaap Stam - he fucked them off quickly because of various issues. Big superstar players that overstepped the mark etc. Nicky Butt said whether it was right or wrong, once the line was crossed they were out - because HE was the boss, not the players - even Roy Keane wasn’t above it. He suggested Arne does the same with Mo otherwise he’ll loose credibility and won’t show he’s a true leader.
As it happens I think Slot will be gone soon anyway as surely the board won’t want too many more performances like we’ve seen, but that aside - is he right on it, in principle?

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I think that might be a questionable retelling. There is no doubt Fergie saw himself as the top dog but Stam was moved on because the club thought his stats were dropping, Fergie later admitted that they got that decision wrong as they were using the wrong stats to measure him by.

Beckham wanted the move to Real - perhaps tired of the Fergie’s behaviour in the dressing room (I think Fergie threw a shoe at him which caught him in the face at one point?).

Keane had been in decline and becoming more frustrated as the quality of the squad around him was similarly falling.

Just because Fergie did it, and was reportedly right for him, doesn’t mean it is the right thing for slot or our club.

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Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt were there mate so I’m not sure it’s questionable :rofl:
I think the modern game is a different beast to a certain extent and unfortunately the players do have more power than the managers in some ways. I can’t for the life of me remember who it was, but I saw an interview with an ex premier league manager (I think it was a Warnock type manager if not him) who said he had an issue with a player - that player turned round to him and said ‘you’ll be out of this club way before I will’ or words to that effect, and if I remember correctly he said he was right!
Fergie was a different breed and he had already earned the right to rule with a rod of iron over players like Roy Keane - most managers are only in a job for 2 or 3 seasons if they’re lucky so it hard for anyone to put themselves in that sort of authority position.

It is entirely questionable, they’re unreliable witnesses - as I said, Fergie himself has talked about why he moved Stam on.

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And times have changed. The old hammer the table with your fists style of management is gone.

Jesus Christ, you can’t be this dense! The point of my post is that Nicky Butt said Fergie moved him on despite him being a massive superstar - the reason isn’t the bloody point - maybe he wasn’t playing well, maybe he fucked his wife, maybe he forgot to put sugar in the cup of tea he made him - it’s not relevant!!
This place really pisses me off sometimes - I swear people intentionally ‘miss the point’ and just want to look for a way derail the conversation and create an argument!

Jurgen was similarly ruthless when he felt a player wasn’t pushing the train - witness Mamadou Sakho.

Agreed!

Fergie also allowed Rooney to stay, and awarded him a new contract, after Rooney handed a transfer request in force a move to City.

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Of course it is relevant. Beckham left because he fell out with Fergie, Fergie still wanted him to stay. That doesn’t really fit with your narrative above.

Butt and Scholes are Utd/ Fergie loyalists with the chance to put the boot in on a rival club and are trotting out footballing cliches to do so and playing up to the caricature of Fergie being the Iron Man to do so.

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Well, if there’s any bit of truth in this and Mo’s outburst was because Hughes/Edwards were trying to sell him behind his back, then I don’t really think he is totally in the wrong for coming out and speaking. This makes sense about quotes like “someone is trying to get me out of the club.”

This is deffo Hughes/Edwards vs Mo more than Slot vs Mo.
No wonder all these articles were floated about every minute issue Mo has spoken about over the years. Nice PR stunt !!

For me, Hughes has got to go !!! This scum agent has already shafted us by selling Diaz and now about to sell Mo.
Slot probably has no say in this either like he did with Diaz and looks bad in all of this. The power in the current setup lies at Hughes end who was clearly trying to engineer Mo’s exit behind his back.Mo’s rant now makes complete sense for me, to say the least.
Many people are asking for him to be sold, but it’s not like this is a player who has lost his legs or cannot do his job anymore. He is a serial winner and can still perform at the very highest level, in my opinion.
We will deffo regret selling him.He is at 8G/A already I guess…and he should still end up with 20 G/A minimum till end of season. So, by end of Jan, if we sell him…we will have to replace 20 G/A from Mo (in poor form) and 18G/A Diaz in this team.

Good luck for signing Semenyo as Salah’s replacement for 70 million.Isn’t he a left winger ? So we sell a right forward to bring in a left forward and who plays on the right ? Dear God…I hope it’s not Dom who might be the one sacrificed to play on the right.

Just sucking out all the world class players out of this club now…are we ?

Slot presser also didn’t help put the fire out.He said in the press conference that he has not had a conversation with Mo since leeds and he only informed him as part of a team conversation that you are not traveling. What are we doing here…just adding more fuel to the fire !!!
Since when did we become this..a culture to stand for each other has been completely dismantled into ego battles ? And now we are displaying that out in the open that there is no relationship between Slot and Mo.
When the question was were you on speaking terms with Mo…he says yes we were… implicitly not anymore (no relationship between them anymore).
Where’s the man management…the arm around the shoulder ? This is a player who basically won you the league and when things turn bad…you make him him the first casualty!!
What’s more telling was when Slot was asked …has Mo played his last game for Liverpool and he replied…“I have no clue” like seriously…why would you give that response as a coach ?

It seems very clear from most of the responses from Slot today that this is between Mo vs Hughes/Edwards.We all know only one winner is going to come out of that.

To conclude, I think Hughes/ Edwards want to get rid of Mo in the summer. But, they had to give him a contract , otherwise they would have looked like fools not tying the best player in the league. Now when the form of the entire team was bad…they thought of this as a perfect opportunity to bin him off. But, I guess they never thought that Mo will come out and speak.
Good Bye Mo…thanks for the memories. I hope you don’t sign for a direct rival !!
And, I hope we don’t become the new Man utd.

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