Its not inappropriate to talk about the manager. But it is absurd in the context of Alonso’s firing, his tenure at Madrid and presumed availability.
If your issue that that you don’t want to hire Alonso, then that’s your position and argue that.
Saying it’s unbecoming to talk about suggests the topic itself is inappropriate, which is, again, absurd.
Context, bro
Context…
The context is that we have a very successful manager who is working thru a very challenging season, dealing with stuff both within but mostly outside his control.
And the absurdity is reflected in the hankering for a replacement with a young manager who’s just had a disastrous short tenure at a big club…
In football, context is everything…
Bro, the problem is that your purported context is slanted towards Arne. How about this for context.
Arne inherited a top side.
He put together six months of great performances with very little changes.
Ever since then, the performances have cratered to historic depths.
That is despite a record breaking 450M in club investments over the summer.
And the club has no identity at the moment. No consistent style of play.
And it appears that Slot is lost at how to address it.
And Xabi Alonso, who was credibly reported to be the club’s preferred choice to follow Klopp, was sacked by Real Madrid after - let’s say it together - five total losses across all competitions. Or, less than the number that Slot had in the month of October.
You could say that my context is “slanted” against Arne. And maybe that’s true. But there is truth in both slants.
So yeah, context bro, there’s a reason why people are discussing Alonso.
But hey, if you want to keep backing Slot, go for it. I hope Slot succeeds. I’d rather see that over anything else.
No its not slanted against Slot. Its riddled with inaccuracies and half truths.
For one, we had a brilliant 2024/2025 season. A season last time I checked is not 6 months. The fudging of timelines by some of you is just pathetic…
Second, Alonso wasn’t fired for five losses. He failed with a squad with a value exceeding 1billion, specifically failed to get buy-in to his vision…
I agree with you.
My unbecoming comment was an acknowledgment that for some posters it’s impertinent. We can see that in the conversation that followed!
Peace and love to all. Didn’t mean to drop a bomb, but rather, just talk about something that seemed rather obvious in its timing. Not sure how Hughes and the decision makers will play it, but my opinion is they will at least want to be informed of any offers Alonso receives, and may even get into tentative ‘what if’ discussions as the season progresses.
Part of me would rather that sort of thing didn’t happen. And part of me would rather we were prepared for various eventualities, though crucially, with decorum and confidentiality.
Like pretty much any senior role, a manager’s job security comes down to three things
- Performance
- Relationships
- Finances
At the moment, Slot has question marks over all three.
Despite spending heavily, the integration of new signings and overall squad usage has been poor. There are credible reports of tensions with players, clashes with the sporting director, and the club has already moved on parts of his coaching staff.
On the financial side, our odds of qualifying for the Champions League are barely above 50%. Missing out would significantly magnify the risk attached to recent transfer spending.
That combination of poor results, strained internal relationships, and financial risk (elevated by his spending) is why the pressure is structural rather than reactive.
When a manager becomes available who was your primary target 2 years ago, knows how to get the most out of two of your new signings, and has a connection and affinity to the club it would be foolish for the club not to have him on their radar.
He is regarded a top manager. If he does not end up here, it will likely be City, or Munich.
To be clear - I agreed with you initially and I agree with your comment here as well. I don’t see a problem with having the discussion considering the circumstances, and those who feel otherwise are welcome not to participate.
I’d rather debate the merits of Alonso then bat away posters who feel like you can’t even have the discussion out of some misplaced sense of decorum.
Based on what?
What were the odds for PSG at this time last season?
Betting odds, OPTA super computer predictions, our form and position in the table. Take your pick.
Reality is that we are fighting for fourth against United, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brentford. With 4 points covering all those teams.
Show me what those odds were for PSG at this time last season
If we end up staggering through this season without winning anything; due to disjointed performance after disjointed performance; but end up in the top four… I can still see Slot being in charge at the beginning of next season.
However, if things don’t get any better next season, and the season is another disaster class in Slot being a slow learner in how to get the supporters excited about our football again, yet we again qualify for CL… I can see him being shown the door at Anfield at the season end… with a thanks but no more please..
For what happens next, I can see Jurgen coming back for 3yrs..!
Reason being, I don’t think either LFC or Jurgen himself has closed the book on us…
Now what time do the bookies open by me in the morning :0)
Except we were 10th in the league then and had a shite team
I genuinely haven’t seen anything about fallings out with anyone but Salah.
You also can’t pin the spending on him alone. We all know that’s not how it works at the club. And even if it was all on him “he” spent next to nothing in his first two windows meaning his net spend is barely above Spurs and about £50m less than City or Arsenal.
Poor results are on him but CL qualification for next season will be the expectation and right now he’s on course for that.
He is talking about qualifying for the CL at the end of the season!
There is no way he starts next season without a new contract. He either gets an extension or he gets the door. Like I said previously, bookmark this.
You are right and most fans are discussing this with rationale. Of course we can discuss who should replace Slot of he leaves or gets sacked
But then you have a very small section of fans who actually wished we lose games to try to hasten the departure of Slot amongst other labels thrown at him. Slot is probably not going in the trajectory of being the top managers we ever had, but as long he remains our manager and continues the show respect for the club, we need to accord that same basic support to him back, regardless of results. The club is not just about us, the fans, it’s everyone involved.
So yes if anyone says you cannot discuss the hypothetical situation if slot leaves who should replace him, they are wrong. You can and we should. But to those small section of fans whom I describe above, sorry, shame on you.
The club had been in contact with Jurgen for at least 6 months prior but he wanted to have a season long break before starting with us, otherwise Rodgers would have gone much sooner.
There’s no benefit to doing so unless they’re fully convinced on him but I guess we’ll see.
otherwise Rodgers would have gone much sooner.
I wonder about this. Would they have sacked Rodgers if he continued to get results? Agreed there was the whole transfer committee thing but if the results were good would FSG have still jumped?
Same goes here too. If Slot gets the results i.e. CL qualification would they jump because there’s a shiny new thing on the shelf?
I’d say there’s a world of difference between Alonso and Klopp and only no CL or some epic falling out removes Slot in favour of Alonso. In my head it’s nuts to think otherwise.