Worse teams than this one have won the CL (2005 springs to mind), but they were playing above and beyond their ability.
This Liverpool team doesn’t even do the fundamentals right, let alone perform to the level that is required to win the biggest club competition in the world.
Slot inherited a team full of mentality monsters, winners with a feel good factor,
players who wanted to be here,
now some of the senior play like they dont want to be here, or are really off form,
he’s also isolated several players (Endo, Chiesa, Elliott, Jarrell) and the way he recently spoke about Ramsay was poor, and got me thinking about how he speaks to the players behind the scenes
its like Slot has sucked the feel good factor out the team, and ruined the togetherness that Klopp had built up
I cant see this ending well
I think what worries me is that Klopp was an attraction for top players even when we were crap. I don’t think Slot has that appeal even at the best of times. If we get into the situation of not having CL football, I can’t see top players wanting to sign for us.
I’m not even sure if a different coach could add that attraction, but I think the perception of unrest would be off putting.
yip, Klopp had a warmth to him, he was immediately liked by everyone he met
i get the impressions that Slot is a cold person, not really interested in building relationships,
We started the season with four did we not? And the suggestion was if we’d got Guehi in then we’d have let Gomez go. Not sure what he’s got to answer for.
And yet he talked Wirtz out of going to Bayern and Isak went on strike to get his move here. Not to mention Ekitike.
I think Klopp had that extra pull at a time when the club wasn’t as appealing. Now we’re less reliant on that cult of personality type manager that made Klopp so appealing as a hire.
The club was an attraction because we just won the league and looked like a strong CL proposition. We currently look a mess.
Klopp also had strong track records at Dortmund. He was already considered an elite manager before joining us.
Slot managed to convinced new players to join us simply because he won the league last season. They absolutely wouldn’t have joined us had Slot been just a total rando.
Look, we would have won last season with Klopp as well since all of our rivals were in shamble. 82 points would have been enough.
Slot has been a dead man walking for months. Losing 9 of 12 should have been the end of him, or even earlier than that.
We don’t need to take anything away from his league win - he managed us well that year. His subs were good, the football was controlled, we deserved to win the league.
That doesn’t mean he is fit to continue as Liverpool manager. He hasn’t displayed any ability to get us out of a slump in form. His first 5 months or so were his best, and it’s all been patchy since then.
Claudio Ranieri won a league title with Leicester, and he was not even close to being a world class manager. He managed well in those particular set of circumstances but his limitations were obvious. Brendan Rodgers’ 13/14 season was similar. It looks like we’re seeing the same thing with Slot here - he has hit his ceiling.
The closest example is Louis Van Gaal at Bayern Munich.
Isak went on strike to force a move to liverpool and stand a better chance of winning more trophies (and earn more cash), playing for Slot probably played a small part in this.
re: Wirtz, yes Slot talked to him about rejecting Bayern, but there other factors that helped him make his decision to join us…
Vincent Kompany also had very good thoughts and ideas about how he wanted to integrate Florian into the Bayern team. In the end, it was a matter of details; the decision ultimately had to do with the different sporting situations and Florian’s role.”
“Financially, there weren’t any major differences between the two clubs. Again, Bayern Munich really tried hard, but a decision had to be made. Florian saw the move abroad as a new personal and sporting challenge and therefore chose Liverpool. We all shared this view.”
I simply wish I could figure out what exactly is going on.
To me Slot proved himself as a decent manager last season, but all of a sudden he’s crap?
Too many new players, yet too many existing stalwarts are way off form.
Our midfield has massive holes in it, yet it was the same rock solid midfield as last season.
It just feels as if there’s too much going wrong at the same time and you can’t point at one thing in particular to fix it.
I’ve given up on Slot for a while. But I don’t know what the board is trying to do right now. We’re on track to lose Champions League football next year and waste the Champions League this season. Do they really want to throw this season? No new manager, no new CBs… what are they doing? It’s a pure toxic vibe all around the club, IMO.
You can make different cases about whom he signed and didn’t sign but ultimately it looks like he failed at his biggest challenge: finding the right man to succeed Klopp.
I am very glad I didn’t watch the yesterday’s match.You couldn’t pay me to watch Slot ball anymore.Sack this fraud and sack Edwards and Hughes as well.
I think this is one of the issues that concerns me the most, and also baffles me when Slot speaks in press conferences. Complaining about players running out of gas is okay when you use players. Why not rotate Jones and Robbo and start them in either one of the games? Fine if you don’t trust Chiesa or Endo, but Robbo and Jones both have started games and played well this season. Similar to when we had the Salah situation when he could’ve given chances to both Mo and Gakpo but he started Cody in every game and benched Mo three times in a row.
I understand that its not easy to manage a squad and there are players you trust and you don’t as much, but still benching Robbo and Jones from both games don’t make sense at all, and its one of the biggest reasons why I don’t see a future with Slot that he clearly is not capable to manage the squad at the level required at the top.
Yeah i don’t buy the ‘he won the league so gets more time’ nonsense. Its nogood winning the league then having a disaster the following season.
Most??? speak for yourself 
I am not pardoning Slot by any means for this run of form, but I do think he’s suffering from a lack of options right now. The only striker who is firing right now is Ekitike, and he doesn’t want to overplay him and risk injury. Wirtz is still adapting to the fitness of the league - he often looks knackered. Salah and Gakpo and Chiesa and Rio are not offering much end product.
Then you’ve got a back line that’s falling apart all over, with no chance of recovery. No rest. No rotation.
There are no reinforcements coming. Hell, they were just trying to sell Robbo, which I’m not sure how you can justify if Joe has to miss time.
FSG really needs to decide now if they’re backing Slot long term or cutting bait. If they believe in him, bring in reinforcements now. Salvage the season.
Agreed but if it is all down to Slot then fine. I just don’t know if it is or isn’t.