I certainly strive to be witty. In fact, my wife says I bring a real shaft of wit around the place (at least that’s what it sounded like).
I’m not sure if all of our best managers have been wordsmiths; Bill Shankly most certainly, Bob Paisley, hardly at all, and Kenny Dalglish could be quite taciturn a lot of the time, although those last two were definitely canny and had solid foundations to work from, and a great team around them. Klopp, for me, has been the closest to Shankly in the way he was able to inspire the players and fans.
Whatever Slot was doing last season clearly worked long enough to secure number 20, and we were mostly willing to give him the benefit of any doubt, but when the team has struggled he’s certainly also struggled to provide much in the way of inspiration.
The more time passes, the more he strikes me as a Man City manager. Guardiola is his idol after all and there are close parallels if you look at his obsession with control and the reluctance to trust the youth.
That’s not something to bash him with by the way, but like you said it may not be aligned with Liverpool’s identity and philosophy
Nonsense. It’s like a fucking competition to see who can do the most impressive catastrophising.
The squad isn’t deep enough, but you replace Endo and Chiesa with players Slot actually is happy to use and the sign the winger who should have been bought last year and we’re in great shape.
After the summer we had, in which Slot was required to front the club through an awful tragedy, and did so with class and dignity, suggesting he doesn’t conform to some nebulous concept of ‘liverpoolness’ properly boils my piss.
I don’t agree that we’re in a 3-5 year rebuild. But as much as we discuss the fact that Klopp left Slot with a strong squad going into last year, he also left Hughes/Edwards with a lot of longterm rebuild work that needed to happen in transforming an aging side. Klopp left them with multiple unresolved contracts and players in key positions who were aging, and others who needed replacing.
That started last summer with the many first team incomings and the outgoings we also had. And that will continue going forward.
That’s not on Slot. It would have happened no matter who we hired. The only concern is whether this season has dulled their ability to recruit. The Jacquet signing suggests that isn’t the case, but we will know more this summer.
Yeah? And you’re the only fucking voice of reason according to you. You got the benefit of the doubt since the last blow out but you don’t half jump on your high horse.
That is the bone of contention. Many of us think think it is plenty deep enough, and it is the limitation of Slot that is making effectively smaller and more challenged than it should be and that is something that cannot/will not be solved by buying him replacements.
Do you really think the present squad is deep enough? Yes, we’ve had injuries. But we went into this season with a lack of depth at CB, CDM, and on the wings. It has clearly hurt us now - and to be fair, it should have been predictable in some cases.
I think someone either on here or on another discussion group mentioned that Slot used to give youngsters playing time and chances before he arrived at LFC. I wonder what has changed…it cannot be that Feyenood led by a few goals and he could sub the young players on (which we rarely won any games by some kind of margin for him to use this method)…So, again, what has changed?
When the only person on the bench who could make a reasonable claim to be part of our best eleven, even with the injuries the squad is clearly not deep enough.
It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that Endo and Chiesa were not rated by Slot. I don’t understand why you think replacing them with two players who he wants to use wouldn’t improve us.
Yes perspective, because no one is outright saying we need a 5 yrs rebuild, they are just alerting to the risk that if we cock it up again, that’s what we are looking at, assuming we dont get it right, after this immediate testing period. Its a valid risk to raise. We are 2yrs into that 5 now. One more manager and a season of indecision and hey presto. Its happened to the Arse and Manure.
The recourses are what they are - he has to be able to use them. There isn’t a situation out there where a manager is totally happy with a given squad - you’ve got to make it work.
That he does not dip deeper into the players available is more suggestive of a strategy based around fear of (Slot) losing, than one of self-belief.
So you’re warning of the dangers of a five year rebuild if we fuck up, but then immediately pivoting to suggest we are already two years into that already?