The whole notion that Slot doesn’t fit with the Liverpool identity is bollocks. What, Rafa did, with his glowering pacing on the touchline?
This is about results. I could care less about his pressers or his touchline demeanor if we were winning.
Diaz clearly wanted a last big contract. At 28, that’s the age where you really want to get on a highly paid five year deal.
Apparently Slot did not want to sell Diaz but the club did not want to give him the contract he got at Bayern and felt 70m was too much to turn down.
Now you are just being silly.
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After the summer we had, in which Slot was required to front the club through an awful tragedy, and did so with class and dignity, suggesting he doesn’t conform to some nebulous concept of ‘liverpoolness’ properly boils my piss.
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Arne slot outlasting Thomas Frank, Ruben Amorim and Enzo Maresca despite having one of the biggest window in the league’s history is amazing lol…
I don’t agree that we’re in a 3-5 year rebuild. But as much as we discuss the fact that Klopp left Slot with a strong squad going into last year, he also left Hughes/Edwards with a lot of longterm rebuild work that needed to happen in transforming an aging side. Klopp left them with multiple unresolved contracts and players in key positions who were aging, and others who needed replacing.
That started last summer with the many first team incomings and the outgoings we also had. And that will continue going forward.
That’s not on Slot. It would have happened no matter who we hired. The only concern is whether this season has dulled their ability to recruit. The Jacquet signing suggests that isn’t the case, but we will know more this summer.
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Yeah? And you’re the only fucking voice of reason according to you. You got the benefit of the doubt since the last blow out but you don’t half jump on your high horse.
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Actually, no, he’s even better because Guardiola didn’t prove it at Feyenoord!
Because Guardiola admirers are those who are obsessed by control and don’t trust young players by default.
Amazing.
That is the bone of contention. Many of us think think it is plenty deep enough, and it is the limitation of Slot that is making effectively smaller and more challenged than it should be and that is something that cannot/will not be solved by buying him replacements.
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No, there are other voices of reason out there.
But in this thread you have lads claiming we going to need a five year rebuild and another saying Brendan Rodgers was better.
I’d suggest, with respect, perspective has been lost.
What are you talking about? Slot himself has said as much many times
Do you really think the present squad is deep enough? Yes, we’ve had injuries. But we went into this season with a lack of depth at CB, CDM, and on the wings. It has clearly hurt us now - and to be fair, it should have been predictable in some cases.
I think someone either on here or on another discussion group mentioned that Slot used to give youngsters playing time and chances before he arrived at LFC. I wonder what has changed…it cannot be that Feyenood led by a few goals and he could sub the young players on (which we rarely won any games by some kind of margin for him to use this method)…So, again, what has changed?
When the only person on the bench who could make a reasonable claim to be part of our best eleven, even with the injuries the squad is clearly not deep enough.
It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that Endo and Chiesa were not rated by Slot. I don’t understand why you think replacing them with two players who he wants to use wouldn’t improve us.
He didn’t say he’s his idol, but I know he admires him. Like a vast majority of people in the industry. Not for the reasons mentioned.
Yes perspective, because no one is outright saying we need a 5 yrs rebuild, they are just alerting to the risk that if we cock it up again, that’s what we are looking at, assuming we dont get it right, after this immediate testing period. Its a valid risk to raise. We are 2yrs into that 5 now. One more manager and a season of indecision and hey presto. Its happened to the Arse and Manure.
But is this not the crux of it.
The recourses are what they are - he has to be able to use them. There isn’t a situation out there where a manager is totally happy with a given squad - you’ve got to make it work.
That he does not dip deeper into the players available is more suggestive of a strategy based around fear of (Slot) losing, than one of self-belief.
It smacks of arrogance.
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So you’re warning of the dangers of a five year rebuild if we fuck up, but then immediately pivoting to suggest we are already two years into that already?
So we won the league after year one?
So he is setting the team to not lose games rather than win them, and that is arrogance?
Given by the end he had to bring in his own man on a short term contract to get deals done, i would say it was more the other way round, that Edwards and co left Klopp with having to transform an ageing side. That probably contributed somewhat to Klopp leaving when he did. That has then probably been made worse by the club moving on the youngsters who had covered for any gaps in Klopps squad.
Ultimately you either believe in your system, and the set up to foster it, or you don’t. He has had plenty of time to set up both. That he does not trust what he has implemented, after nearly nearly 2 years, is in damming.
The arrogance is adhering to a system that can only work if the stars align and if they do not, it is the universes fault.