Arne Slot - Head Coach

I’m with Slot in saying the PL standard is dire.

Last night was awful. Our control of the game was dire and I’ll point the finger at our midfield again. We seriously need someone to play as a midfield anchor. Why we’ve moved away from that baffles me.

As far as what the club decides to do going forward there are better people in far better places to make that judgement.

It won’t change how I support the club but the standard of football being played in the league will make me watch less. I simply have better things to do than watch long throws.

PS long throws in rugby are better.

Actually my opinion of Slot is not that far off yours. I also think he looks a bit lost, and I’ve said that I think we might need a change at this point. I’ve said all this. I don’t enjoy saying it, so I don’t say it all the time, after every setback, and I don’t think it helps anything, including my own mental health, to spend my time effectively hate watching the football club I support.

I’ll step in and point out where I think people are getting a bit carried away. Like two footing him because he’s bald. Or saying he’s no better than Hodgson or something.

And this apparently is ‘devotion’.

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One advantage of the premier league being appalling is that I don’t have much argument from my lad about going to bed at half time when it’s a late kick off.

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The irony is his team contributes to most of it.

The only decent performance I can think of is Sunderland away. We were also dire against Forest and West Ham. Last night was no surprise. We only wanted to play when we went a goal down.

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The daft thing is, there’s flashes of brilliance but all the clubs have gone full Stato and are playing the percentages on what gives them the best chance of getting a result

It’s the Moneyball, get to first base taken to the extreme.

That doesn’t excuse our performance last night though.

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Who’d have thought that Dave Challinor was the future of football…

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Some, not most. There’s 19 other teams all playing pretty much the same shite. Not making excuses for us though.

Apologies, I’m drifting the thread off topic

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Did I hear Andy Grey say last night that Allardyce and co. the dinosaurs were making a comeback?

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If only he were capable of doing that. PSG were an incredible side, who moved the ball with tempo and guile, but pressed like the best of them. In fact, they had much more in common with Klopp’s more successful teams in 19/20 than with whatever Slot is trying to implement now. So far, I’d say that his ‘style’ is closer to a shit caricature of a Guardiola side than anything else discernible.

More importantly though, Slot can’t even produce a team that gets the basics right. We were facing the last team in the league with a grand total of 13 points and they looked fitter, better drilled and far more organised.

If that isn’t a damning indictment of his work, I don’t know what is.

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Kinda have to do this but since I made a bit of a fuss and moan about it the time I suppose I should bring it up. The breaks we had recently were supposed to rejuvenate apparently while some of us felt they would be better off spent on the training field. To which there were some who said we’d see the benefits down the line.

Can anyone see this team looking sharper, fitter and fresher? Genuine question. We are down the line with not a whole lot of line left to go and to me they’re running through treacle most of the time. Actually, scrap that, running through treacle would actually be faster than the pace we play at.

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Just imagine how bad it would be without those breaks to energise them :squinting_face_with_tongue::face_blowing_a_kiss:

Maybe the break they need is from Arne’s tactics or lack of?

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I have been wondering for a while whether last season was much easier as we didn’t have as many injuries to key players - or at least the injuries were easier to cover as we didn’t have all our first choice players out for a particular position (e.g. Right Back).

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Fuck me, at least Guardiola’s style had penetration when KDB was not available.

As for the basics, yeah, it is really very damning. One can only wonder why he allowed Gravenberch to venture so far up the pitch when he is supposedly the DM and couldn’t distribute like a prime Alonso to save his fucking life.

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Interesting take and it shines a spot light on the fitness and conditioning side of the team. Last season, our first choice full-backs had around 70 odd days of being out of the team where it largely didn’t overlap.

This season, the main issue lies in Bradley being fucked and Frimpong keeps getting those hamstring niggles…and Slot refusing to use Ramsay in any way…

Looking at Frimpong’s injury history, his time with us is a huge outlier compared to the time when he was with Bayer Leverkusen…

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I did wonder last season whether Slot’s approach was helping with fitness. I’m now wondering whether last season was just blind luck and this season bad luck.

Klopp had seasons like that as well. He did usually find answers for it.

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It’s a reaction to the strength of the league, which is in turn a consequence of how much money there is in the competition.

I was saying last night before kick off I was concerned about the game. Wolves aren’t bottom because they are shite. They are bottom because they are the least good - they still have really good players. They can give anyone a game.

People acting aggrieved that we didn’t swat them aside like fodder need to wake up to the reality of what the Premier League has become.

The idea of a league packed with quality that is competitive from top to bottom sounds great, but all that’s happening as a result is that teams are increasingly scared to play football, and are trying to reduce the game to coachable moments, like set pieces.

Arsenal are supposed to be the best team, but you watch their games and it’s a conscious exercise in not letting anything happen. And then they crowd the goalkeeper and head one in that probably shouldn’t be allowed.

The Premier League need to be concerned about this. The quality of the games is now becoming an endemic problem and a topic of discussion, and that is going to end up impacting the bottom line.

I think a lot of Liverpool fans are getting frustrated that we’ve become incredibly risk adverse and boring, without fully realising that this is just what the league has become. If anything, we were a bit late to the party on this (or whatever the opposite of a party is).

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We have conceded 80 league goals under Slots leadership

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Wolves aren’t bottom because they are shite.
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Yes they are.

They were absolutely woeful for 80 minutes until they scored and in all that time we couldn’t lay a fucking glove on them.

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No, they really aren’t. They beat Villa the other day. They gave Arsenal a real scare. They haven’t been on the end of any real twattings at all this season. You can see in how they move the ball they have quality.

This is why I was worried about this one. More so than West Ham. A combination of good players who can hurt you in moments, a team finding form with nothing to lose and our own stuttering performances meant this was always going to be a banana skin.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t be beating them, and I’m not saying that we weren’t ultimately the architects of our own downfall. I’m saying that there are no shit teams in this league and anyone has a puncher’s chance of beating you.

Looking at the team in twentieth place and thinking they must be shit is misguided. It’s just not that league anymore.

Maybe each manager is given a set number of “Fuck off you daft twat” cards that they can hand out to the media during the season?