No one does. We want to be challenging on all fronts.
When is enough actually enough though?
For me the last few matches have been so awful that my mind is fast being made up.
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When there is a better alternative. And that has to be a better alternative for several seasons going forward and not a 3 or 4 game new manager bounce.
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This team is practically screaming and begging for a helpful change and new input and ideas. The players are yearning for some consistency and stability, but they obviously can’t get it – that much is clear. Even a blind man could see that, and that’s why we’re certainly not going to become a club that changes its manager every five minutes. At some point, enough is enough.
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Ok fair enough you may not be intentionally doing it but its crystal clear after poor results your posts all follow the same path of its always some other problem.
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Half season it most certainly isn’t
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People’s interpretation of the PSG things is interesting to me. What lots of people seemingly took from that was that we needed to change how we play but that isnt what I heard from him. What I heard was that PSG were the gold standard for what he already wanted us to do. They were the measuring stick for the football he was already trying to get us to play and our efforts were about taking Slotball up to 11 so we could better match them, not changing what Slot ball is. That is what is so damning about this season IMO
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If Arne could have done something to prevent moments like this, we’d be significantly better off.
We’ve dropped 9 points this season through conceding goals beyond the 90th minute of games. Those 9 points would have had us on 57 points, 2 behind Man City and 7 ahead of United at this point - no back bone. A few years ago we used to be the team that scored late and snatched victories.
Liverpool’s stoppage-time defeats
- Crystal Palace 2-1 Liverpool (Estevao, 90+5)
- Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool (Nketiah, 90+7)
- Bournemouth 3-2 Liverpool (Adli, 90+5)
- Liverpool 1-2 Man City (Haaland pen, 90+3)
- Wolves 2-1 Liverpool (Andre, 90+4)
And a couple of draws…
- Fulham 2-2 Liverpool (Reed, 90+7)
- Leeds 3-3 Liverpool (Tanaka, 90+6)
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I dont know if its exactly that stat or some variation of it, but there is one metric about points dropped from late goals conceded that is supposedly the worst of any team in premier league history
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The stat is Liverpool have lost matches 5 times beyond the 90th minute, the most of any side in a single season.
Worryingly, we have nine games to go…
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In the summer, there will be a plethora of quality managers which will make Slot’s position very very shaky!
Arguably more so in the summer of 2027, though a few of them might have their futures resolved before.
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Such as? Alonso is one I know. Who else?
What if there were 2 halves consecutively? 2nd half of last season and what we’ve seen so far this season.
We’ve been struggling for over a year now and far from seeing shoots of recovery the trajectory is still alarmingly downward.
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Of course, injuries have played a huge role this season.
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Some people care more about optics. I care more about a manager with a clear identity, one capable of clever tactical adjustments and accepting accountability instead of bemoaning luck or the style of the opponent or other excuse-making. I care about a manager who inspires his players and supporters to believe.
I like Slot in a lot of ways. But I don’t see how one can look at him and see someone who the lads will get behind. We need a leader.
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Not sure if I’m honest he hasn’t had to dig that far down until recently. There is a suggestion he can’t rotate as much but then he has used options such as Endo rather sparingly.
I have rarely thought the team isn’t suitable enough to get results but it’s underperformed.
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Two damning things about this:
- On Hughes: We got rid of the personnel that allowed us to play Slotball or any semblance of it (e.g., speedy, tricky wingers who are a pressing machine, and a CF who presses well too). Plus we got rid of any semblance of depth in defence as well.
Last year was already a departure from Slot’s usual style as I understand it from what was written about him when he joined (where he would require every one of his forwards to press) as Mo more than made up for it with his goals.
- The expectation which I think most of us had for our manager was that he would adjust to what tools he has in a transition (squad turnover year).
Unfortunately Slot appears to be a manager who is stubborn and not pragmatic and even without the proper tools to implement his tactics refuses to change them.
If you don’t have eggs, don’t try and make an omelette. Make something else… This is where I think the frustration is and where perhaps the players see the futility as well.
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I posted this in the post-match thread, my mistake as it should be in here:
Slip Sliding Away. The Paul Simon song. It’s the gradual loss of something, despite efforts to hold on.
I think that’s about where it’s at with Slot. I’m sure there will be an end of season review, and rightly so, but it feels to me as though there’s an air of inevitability that this is slip sliding away from him.
I would have thought we would need to do something very special, and unexpected at this point, to change Slot’s trajectory.
As for the team and squad, I do not think a massive overhaul is needed, at all. Minimum of three good signings - winger, defender, midfielder - and we are good to go, at least in terms of personnel.
At that point they will need to be fashioned (not an intentional Tommy Hilfiger reference!) into a cohesive unit, coached well and playing with belief.
I can’t help but think it’s a job for Xabi Alonso. The personnel are mostly in place for a title challenge, a few more signings and we go again for the next cycle. But I’m coming around to the view that Slot won’t be at the helm. It’s slip sliding away.
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If you are referring to the CF who presses well as Nunez you didn’t watch his last 4-5 months, do love this revisionism but he wasn’t doing much in that last 4-5 months, that maybe on Slot or it maybe just because frankly he wasn’t very good.
I do agree on Diaz, once the situation with Jota happened I wouldn’t have sold.
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