So good it’s been posted twice? Haven’t listened (yet), can someone give me a precis?
Of course when asked about something he would change retrospectively, the first thing coming to mind is the Forest defeat.
Se from 4:16.
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Does anyone think Arne will be promoted to manager in the future?
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No
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Completely agree with this. We did a lot of work to implement the structure we have, and it is here to stay. Slot will presumably be well rewarded with bonuses for his achievements, on top of his salary, and anyone who is a winner - in whatever line of work - will receive that bit more respect and people will listen all the more to what they have to say.
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We’ll see what happens. It wouldn’t surprise me if promotion comes with a contract extension in the future. Might have already been discussed before he took over.
No he is head coach, let him concentrate on the football side of things and Hughes on recruitment and retention.
Remember that guy called Jurgen, he got burnt out trying to control everything.
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Nothing to do with promotion the idea of manager is dying a death in football.
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What is the difference in job description for manager and head coach?
Jürgen was coaching the team and in the dugout as a manager.
We would need to see job descriptions to be precise, but generally the biggest difference is recruitment. Slot will be consulted, and will be part of the team, but Hughes will spearhead recruitment.
Old school managers were also involved in contracts, but all that is now with the director of football.
Essentially the game, especially at the upper end, has become too big for one man to do the old fashioned manager role.
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No wonder Jürgen ran out of energy. I hope Arne does have big say on the future players he would like to have though.
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He will definitely have a say, and it will be a collaborative approach. But I think the idea is that if recruitment is with the DOF it will flatten out the old problem of managers recruiting their favorites/known players. Ten Hag at Man Utd would be an extreme example - he wasted loads of money overpaying for familiar/known players and if they had a good structure in place, they would have done much better for all the money spent.
Obviously if the DOF is crap it won’t help as much as it should, but a good DOF will have options to go through with the head coach, according to playing type to fit with the style, and within budget.
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It’s good that Man Utd are now keen on a few Portuguese players.
Seems they have learnt.
Anyhow he came in as head coach and that will remain. Clough/Taylor would be suggested as old school but they sort of acted a bit like a DoF/Head Coach.
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It’s all in the job description, but as mentioned previously, a manager will lead, rather than be consulted on signings.
Prior to Shankly, the manager didn’t even have the last word on team selection. It’s largely why Matt Busby passed on a management role after WWII and Shankly did similar in 1951 (he questioned what, exactly, he was meant to be managing)
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Given everything that has been described by primary sources on our structure, going all the way back to Rodgers and the infamous “transfer committee”, I don’t think the job scope has changed at all between Jürgen and Arne.
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Apparently, we have got the wrong thread title..!
He was actually born Arend Martijn Slot, meaning Arne is a nickname. Arend is the Dutch word for eagle, and, while not a common name in the Netherlands, it was passed down to him by his father.
…in our case, a bald eagle :0)
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