Breaking News Thread

I’d be catious to believe that this is random, giving the apparent relationship between the 2 victims likely point to mother/daughter or aunt/neice. This will likely have been committed by someone known to the family, or by someone that is in the family.

Remember the acid attack in Clapham this year it initally looked to be random, but once they looked into the victim and perpitrator, they found out it was domestic violence.

I dread to think what would have happened if the perpetrator had turned out to be non-white.

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The woman and girl would still have stab wounds unfortunately.

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And we would have even more riots. But classic deflection from you.

Such is life at the moment.

We might forget the impact on victims as we wonder how the crime will impact on law and order and society. This is a consequence of recent events. You look at the perpetrator to consider how “patriots and nationalists” will react. Its that stark, over here anyway…

Irish soldier beats a girl unconcious and some troglodytes say they would buy him a drink.

Iranian guy is caught shoplifting, gets misidentified as a nonce and is subject of several assaults in a matter of hours.

When all is said and done the victims are still suffering. I am as guilty as anyone for forgetting this.
Such is the shame of society.

Edit…
@redalways
@Dane
You are both correct here. Its not even a subject for argument.

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I would agree completely, except people get stabbed all the time without it making national news.

It’s that it happened in a location with high tourist traffic, of national significance (not necessarily importance), and that a child was involved, especially in the recent context of stabbings of children elsewhere.

I’m not in anyway dismissing the impact on the victims, especially the young girl who must be really traumatised, but I’m saying that the reason why we’re even discussing it is because of the wider societal impact rather than the individuals themselves.

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Not deflecting anything.
The only thing of importance here is the welfare of the victims

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I have to agree with @Dane on this one. The ethnic origin of the perpetrator has no bearing on the tragedy of the case. I can understand that you don’t want to see any more civil disturbance but we have to stop treading on eggshells for fear of triggering the bigots.

Can you imagine the police breaking that to the victims family? “Well, my condolences for your loss, but on a brighter note, you might like to know that the perpetrator was a born and bred local scally and not an ethnic.”

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How is it treading on eggshells? I’m merely pointing out the pure hypocrisy of the anti-immigration crowd?

Not relevant to the point I’m making.

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The anti-immigration crowd don’t care anyway. We saw this in Southport. They made up a load of false information to suit their narrative. I’m sure if I looked on Twitter that I would find the same nonsense from yesterday, based on literally nothing but the fevered imaginations of their own twisted minds.

I get where you are coming from, but I think the harmful narratives are spread more from the mainstream media. Cases of crime involving immigrant or ethnic minority people are given far higher prominence and that creates the impression that they are solely responsible for crime or, more worryingly, that British born white people have some inherent birthright to commit crime.

I’m actually wondering whether anyone has actually monitored this?

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Yes, and this is a serious problem. But they’re just permitted to do this, and it’s not something that rightly or wrongly, can be intervened in politically-speaking.

I think it’s widely reported on, studied somewhat, but not enough to gain traction. @Limiescouse is already waging his own war on misrepresentation of reality in US media, but it’s much of the same problem here. There’s minimal accountability. The people who would care anyway are woke liberal softie snowflakes.

EDIT: There’s Stop Funding Hate - Wikipedia but I’m not sure how much actual effect they had. They make the very correct point though that fundamentally the business model of right-wing publications is through stirring up outrage and discord, fomenting division.

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I think that may be a bit too simplistic, as there are a few nuances that also play a factor. A lot of the other stabbings have been teen on teen stabbings, this is an adult attacking a woman and child, so the motivation will more than likely be very different to teen on teen which has a higher likelihood of being either gang or drug related than attacking a 34yo and an 11yo.

I’m not arguing about the true motivation of the attackers.

I’m arguing about the way tragedies are weaponised by the far-right (and those pretending to not be so far-right) to demonise innocent people.

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AH, fair enough, I missunderstood that.

Staggered to see the scope of the fires in the Athens area.

The dry mountain area to the northeast of the city often sees wildfires, but this year’s fire has been huge and has reached deep into residential areas. Chalandri is not really an outer suburb, it is just outside Athens proper and surrounded on all sides by built up area.

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Fortunately, the video doesn’t have subtitle and you don’t understand Bangla. The Police officer is explaining the Home/Interior Minister (the scumbag in white) that even after killing one of the protesters, the others weren’t backing off.

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Looks like the public displays of opposition to facist/racist protest groups, and quick hefty court punishments might be having an impact.
Turns out he is an immigrant, and as yet no rioting or looting.

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No mention of the first person to help her being a Muslim.

Typical BBC.

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Also sitting behind an "Ed Sheeran signs autographs " article in order of importance

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People complain about political lean, but I’m wondering if the biggest problem at BBC (news at least) is the dumbing down of content.

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