France imo has to get these elite who went to the ENA (Study National of Administration) and Science Po out of the ‘top’ jobs. They really are nincompoops!
So the next panic buying fad is going to be Christmas toys
Nice work from Gary Grant, ensuring his coffers are nice and full by the end of this month as the idiots run around like headless chickens
There has been a tragedy tonight in Norway. An attack. It is all unclear, probably terror, but unclear. It is a most improbable attack, absurd and yet so real We have at least 4 dead, several wounded.
A man has shot several people dead, others wounded, unclear how many, with a bow and arrows in Kongsberg. First shot people in a grocery store, then traveled around and killed or at least shot people elsewhere.
But the police is not saying much at all. Just horrible stories from those who ran for cover. He has been apprehended and police fired shots. General preparedness is up, and police are being armed across the country in case there are further attacks in the future.
This may soon become 9 MPs. [7 Labour, 1 Conservative, 1 LibDem]
An article which someone can translate if they wish:
VG.no and Db.no has stories, as has aftenposten.no . You can run their breaking stories through google translate if you wish. And nrk.no
Apparently he also stabbed a woman in the back and used a knife.
Outgoing Prime Minister Solberg is on television now (press conference) and the current info is that it looks like terror but that we don’t know for sure. Jonas Ghar Støre is taking over as new Prime Minister tomorrow !!
The police: - It is natural to assess whether the incident at Kongsberg is an act of terrorism
This is what the police say in a press release on Wednesday night.
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We believe that there is one person who has performed these actions alone. It is natural to assess whether it is an act of terrorism, says leader of the operating unit in the Buskerud police, Øyvind Aas.
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We have all possibilities open, also that it is a terrorist case.
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There are many crime scenes - this person has moved over a large area where criminal acts have been committed, says Aas.
He confirms that there has been a confrontation between the perpetrator and the police.
There are now 5 dead.
My thoughts are with the victims. Is it known whether they are connected with each other in any way?
No, I don’t think they are. They include people in a grocery store and elsewhere. He has shot many with a bow and stabbed at least one person in the back with a knife. It looks like the victims are random, which is why it looks so much like terror, yet that is too early to say before the perpetrator has been thoroughly interviewed by police.
The person has been moving around, shooting people. He also shot at police with his bow as far as I understand but that’s slightly unclear.
Mind you, there is a lot of informed speculation, but not a lot of hard facts about the perpetrator.
terrorism seems like a word that has become aligned with acts of random violence. maybe I’m too old to have always associated that term with politically-motivated groups who use violence as a means to their cause. back to the days of plane hi-jacking, car bombs, public executions of prisoners, piracy.
Nothing else is called terror. Political violence, that is terror. I don’t see what your point is.
This is not called terrorism, it is treated as it can be terrorism. Because if it is, there could be further copy cats if there is a political cause. And by no means is this a random act of violence. I don’t think you realise how much work it is to kill 5 people and wound several others with a bow and arrows. It requires a lot of commitment, takes a lot of time and conviction. But sure, everyone is hoping that it is a mentally disturbed person that has totally snapped and that it is not terror, but it would be foolish to not treat it as a possible terror attack given the scale of the attack. .
By the way @Kopstar , police is refusing to divulge the nature of the victims including if anyone is related, so you should read what I said as informed speculation more than facts (informed because of what I have read about the attack, how he moved around and shot people at several places etc.). It is possible that some are related, I cannot say. I think we will get info on this tomorrow. It is late evening now, relatives of the victims must be reached and consent to information being divulged and so on. The Norwegian press is not allowed to write such details before then even if they know who the victims are (which they probably do).
They say now on tv it might have been a crossbow but I don’t even know if that is true. But a crossbow could possibly explain why so many of the victims died.
The police won’t say anything at all about the perpetrator but the secret police is said to have been involved straight after he got arrested.
As for the victims, the only known fact is that one of those on hospital is a policeman that was in civilian when he got injured by the attacker.
This is now google translated to English.
I just watched the news, this is heartbreaking. Sending my thoughts and prayers to Norway.
thoughts and prayers to those in Norway. shit.
Reports the attacker is a Danish national.
Hope you are safe @Magnus . My prayers are with the families of the victims. Horrible news.