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I find it impossible to understand how someone can go down this road. How do you arrive at the point where you start to believe that this a good idea?

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that arrow sticking out of the building is not from a crossbow. crossbow bolts aren’t that long.

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brainwashing of ignorant people by the devious and evil

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Lots of information on the perpetrator now. The bit about converting to Islam seems to be less relevant than initially thought. He has been in and out of psychiatric care, doesn’t know a lot about Islam, and while possibly motivated by Wahhabist type ideology, it looks like he is mainly someone who has struggled a lot and went in and out of psychiatric care. In 2020 he was for instance barred from visiting his parents after threatening to murder his father.

The Security Police:
“- Av respekt for etterforskningen, og at den er i en tidlig fase, er det ikke riktig for meg å konkludere. Men jeg står likevel inne for vurdering av at vi ikke har å gjøre med en ekstrem islamist som er religiøst overbevist, men vi står primært overfor en person med store psykiske utfordinger og som ikke drevet fram av en religiøs overbevisning, sier Arne Christian Haugstøyl, seksjonsleder for kontraterror i PST, til Dagbladet.”

Translation: Out of respect for the investigation, and that it is at an early stage, it is not right for me to conclude. But I still support the assessment that we are not dealing with an extreme Islamist who is religiously convinced, but we are primarily facing a person with major psychological challenges and who is not driven by a religious belief, says Arne Christian Haugstøyl, section leader for counter-terrorism in PST, to Dagbladet.

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might be a bit of an old news here

this guy died about 5-6 days back.

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Sounds like the old story of insufficiently funding psychiatric care with the result that far too many unstable people are unsupervised on the street to save money. Terrorism claims make much more sense wrt to a group acting together on basis of ideology, not marginalised lone perpetrators of death, suffering and destruction.

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This news reminded me of Brandon Lee (Bruce Lee’s son) died while filming The Crow.

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Wow, what a tragic way to go.

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Ok, this may be the most obvious question ever, but it has to be asked; Why on earth would a prop gun be loaded and able to fire?

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Blanks can be fatal. Questions will need to be asked of the production’s firearms or safety officer.

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Of fuck, I didn’t know that! :frowning_face:

Tragic story, there will be people on the set with some serious questions to answer although I doubt Baldwin will be one of them. The prop department and firearms specialists should be inspecting these weapons before their use every time.

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This is huge. No formal defence agreement has ever existed so Biden coming out and confirming it is like a giant game of chicken with China. Its not as simple as before, where China would calm things down. Xi Jinping built his credibility as a strongman so backing down will make him lose face.

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I would be angry if it’s the same as Brandon Lee where a prop gun had previously been used to fire a live round. Surely you would have a live round gun and a prop gun completely separate and not use the same one in a multi million dollar production?

As for the death being caused by the gas discharge, that seems pretty unlikely as two people were injured. You need to be at a pretty close distance for the expelled gases to be fatal don’t you?

It seems like Baldwin is in the clear, but this is something that will play on his mind for the rest of his life sadly.

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Everything is CGI in Hollywood these days. But they inisist on firing prop guns?

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I think it’s likely someone is going to be in shit for this. This film was already subject to strikes and walk outs from the production staff due to working conditions, and safety practices not being followed was allegedly one of the concerns raised. Accidents are accidents, but when they occur because of negligence, as appears to be the case here, then someone pays for that.

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I heard the Brazilian currency has been nosediving in last few days.

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