Cody Gakpo to Spurs/Man City

As always, a significant portion of the supposed inconsistency of opinion about a thing on a forum can be explained by the different arguments being made by different people.

I dare say there are a few people quite excited at the thought of getting decent money for Cody that can be used i the market to improve our team. They were likely the loudest critics of him last season and through the summer.

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I would be if this came two months ago but at this stage I“m thinking is it worth the money to potentially risk not getting somebody good to replace him, or wasting money on players who aren“t much better, to be honest.

Selling him at this stage seems a lot more risky than if we had done it 2 months back in my view, maybe also as I have seen our level of ability in the market now.

One of the concerns I raised with the Diaz sale last summer was that we seemed to be under valuing the risk of transfer dealing. Diaz was replaceable, but he was reliable and valuable, so it was a very high bar to achieve it. One of the core principals of the Graham-Edwards era success was an acknowledgment that every transfer was a risk and your overall strategy should reflect that and you go to lengths to avoid exposing yourself to risk. Instead we acted like we thought that because we were well run and do it right the only possible outcome was our genius moves would work and in the process we undervalued the cost and potential for a move or combination of related moves not working out.

Putting together a strategy that moves on Cody to fund the introduction of a new more expensive player in his role seems a move out of exactly the same thinking.

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If gakpo moves to Citee,

Can we include any of their RBs in the deal?

Pep was stockpiling them at 1 point…

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I still can’t understand this logic if it happens. For how good Rio could become its still a big if he gets to that level.

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I want three signings if Gakpo goes. Maybe Minteh is all but done, apparently not but we seem to have two different opinions on it.

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Well if City think Savinho is worth Ā£75m +10m then they’ve set their own market for Gakpo at upwards of that.

Only thing I can think is that it’s too good an amount to turn down which it probably is. But Barcola, Munoz, Minteh and Ngumoha is a very raw group. Barcola is your most senior at 23. Minteh and Munoz making big steps up from relatively modest starting points and Rio is still a kid with a lot to learn.

I’m starting to wonder if the idea is less about building a team to compete for the league title in the next 1-2 years and more for the 3-5 years after that.

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god damn it eric cartman GIF by South Park

One other thing that Cody offers is his ability in the air at the back post none of the others have the aerial prowess, although Munoz has scored with his head coming in on the back post.

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Wouldn’t have bought Isak then. He’s already 27

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We had zero other strikers and he’s literally the one of two we’ve brought in on a permanent basis over the age of 24 in the last three summers. The other being a punt on Chiesa.

Just a theory but we’re very much shopping at the younger end of the market.

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One of the dominos has fallen. Barcola is coming.

Second winger needed for the club to sanction a transfer, as they’ve said since the interest of Spurs/City became known.

Question is, are we getting another winger? Seem to be struggling with our other targets. Is there a mystery 4th man or are we going accept overpaying for one of Mbaye/Minteh?

Whichever way it goes, it’ll be decided late.

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Like I said in the Barcola thread, getting clarity on this fee - Ā£100m up front, down from the Ā£140m they’d been demanding until now - may mean we have the funds available to stretch to a Minteh or Mbaye. Might be we turned away from them for the simple reason that at the full price for Barcola we knew we couldn’t afford those. Could be a different story now.

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All those mentioned ones are mistery men to be fair, so I expect us to have more up our sleeve.

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If Barcola is the sole incoming, we surely need to keep Gakpo. Even if we got another, I’d be really worried about who is covering Isak when he gets his monthly thigh strain.

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Jarrod Bowen for 35 mil :sweat_smile:

I agree, unless someone else is coming in, we should keep Gakpo.

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Thankfully seems to be the clubs attitude too. Already been reported that two incomings would be needed to sanction a Gakpo exit

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100% this.

Even on the left wing, Rio cannot be taking the load of a bona fide option purely because of his age. Otherwise we are gonna end up with a player who gets frequent injuries like Saka because he is overused from an early age.

Munoz JUST started getting used to the league. You can’t just rely on him to do a starter’s job. It’s not fair on him, the team, or Iraola.

As @Mascot said, we have no cover whatsoever for Isak, who has had his share of injuries.

Cody will absolutely get his minutes. And he already looks a good fit with that Iraola is trying to do. Going vertical feeds into his game.

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It would be a lot more sensible to have a look at this in January. By that point we’ll know where we are on Ekitike’s fitness, Rio will have had a few more months as a regular starter, Munez, Barcola and any other winger we bring in should have settled. That’s the point where we can make an informed decision on Gakpo. We’ll still pull a big fee.

Right now, it feels a bit irresponsible to move him on, and it would leave a lot like the squad building equivalent of crossing our fingers and hoping for the best.

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