Not that they need an excuse.
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Just fucking bullshit isnāt it. Snide cuts get away with murder but any sign of retaliation and thatās it. Completely unbalanced
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are you refering to the palace game, or something that might (or might not) happen?
Something that might/might not happen. Most probably will
Thatās the unfortunate part about his reaction. It sort of marks his cards moving forward. Defenders know they can wind him up, and refs will be watching for him too.
Heās going to have to be squeaky clean, and my expectation is that it will be galling to see defenders pile in on him and refs do little to nothing about it.
If he somehow finds his Mo-like zen, and simply responds with goals, threatening play, and goals, I will take it.
Exactly. Iād like to see the team (but I know Klopp wont do this) decide to say to Darwin that he has to just suck it up and never retaliate but that every borderline challenge on him will result in our players hounding the challenger and roughing him up in exchange. Its important that teams donāt think they can just get away with it. I want this team to be the cuntiest cunts in torycunt land, especially if we canāt win the league cos of cheaty.
Tbf if Gomez does the same thing to Haaland weāll all be loving it
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Would we? Itās just not in the makeup of our teams. Hasnāt been since Souness. Gerrard and Carra used to do a bit here and there but only if someone else started something.
We donāt even do that right now, wish we would at least stand up for ourselves from time to time. Hated seeing ManĆ© get kicked around and same for Salah. Wish Hendo and Virg would put in a few hard tackles to let them know weāre not messing about
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Yesā¦we seem to have the protect team on pensā¦keeping people away from the taker, Darwin might need a sidekick for a few gamesā¦or change him to the wing if things get a bit tastyā¦but Iām sure, I hope heāll manage his red mistā¦
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This is exactly the sort of group think that causes to lose their minds over perceived unfair ref decisions. People have convinced themselves that poor Darwin was pushed over the edge by some unfair treatment when in reality it was him being the prick. How wacked this guy multiple times and took wild swings at him several other times. The level of restraint from the defender was actually impressive. Darwin acted out often enough that he forced the ref to give him the appropriate punishment.
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We all know he got the āred mistāā¦and heās got to kerb itā¦but I think some of us are trying to think howā¦only he knows.
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guessing you missed the tackle Nunez laid on Andersen around the 27th minute. thatās when the fireworks started. wasnāt a good tackle at all. Iām looking for a clip of it now
Missed that.
But my comment was also in general. We take a lot of physical punishment and donāt stand up for ourselves I feel
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if by standing up for ourselves, you mean flopping around on the ground like a dickheadā¦ then no we donāt.
However, if you look up the Fair Play award for the PL, youāll find us top of the charts every season but one where we finished secondā¦since 16/17 season which was Jurgenās first full season at the club.
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How is that āstanding up for ourselvesā?
I mean things like stick up for our forwards when they are constantly getting kicked. And yes tackle someone back when they kick our forwards.
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All of our squad seem like decent human beings. A consequence of our āno dicksā policy. In the mould of our manager. Weāll win lots of fair play awards. But itās one of the main reasons why we donāt get decisions and people think thereās a grand conspiracy against us.
(IMO)
I donāt think the ādark artsā is something that Jurgen subscribes to. Iām all for a hard tackle when the moment calls for it, but for all of the shit that we complain about for the Holgateās and Funes Mori tacklesā¦weād look like a bunch of hypocrites if we start head-hunting in retaliation.
that whole āclass is permanentā thing we aspire to.
I secretly loved when Gerrard gave Herrera a good stomp (albeit a straight red) because that cunt had it coming, but timing and all thatā¦ and I love that Milner subscribes to the old school tackle that seems to be lost on the new gen of kids coming up.
I hated that. The first time Iād felt let down by Stevie G in 20 years.
Iām all for the old school crunching tackle though
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Those were disgusting asshole moves. āDark Artsā would be proactively riling up opponents or deliberately trying to hurt themā¦a la Pickford.
No. Never. Not even what Stevie did, that was dirty.
But someone kicks Salah 2-3 times or poleaxes Diaz like the Fulham fullback didā¦someone else should thunder into a tackle on that culprit and also win the ball a la Carra (get Carraghered)
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I think its possible to be tough and uncompromising within the rules.
Surely we can see that?
In the modern game Souness or Case wouldnāt last 5 minutes, but someone like Kante can stick in a tackle and let people know he means business.
In my view we lack that bit of steel.
Fabinho should be the enforcer but he seems to lack that bit of a bastard in himself.
I am not suggesting these mythical dark arts, but if Darwin brcame as effective as Suarez or Costa, I would be happy with that bit of edge to him.
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