Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 1)

I wouldn’t call it a parody. Don’t think the world had such a dangerous leader since the WW2. There’s still some weeks to weather, but we possibly don’t even know how close we were to a devastation.

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Nice painting, ha! It’s ridiculous that people fall for, and swoon over that sort of crap. As a Brit who has lived over here for more than a decade, I truly feel foreign when it comes to Trump. Other Presidents you like/dislike over policy preference and ideology. OK, they might grate you a bit here and there, but it’s a different sort of game to the Trump era.

Trump is such an obvious conman, and the part where I feel very foreign is when that simple truth isn’t universally accepted or perceived.

Anyway, back to the painting. Clearly the eagle is looking for nesting material up there on the top of his head!

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Maybe it was the visuals that did it. It’s hard to know what aspects of reality make it into Donald Trump’s ever-shrinking bubble — and I’m happy to say that after Jan. 20 we won’t have to care about what goes on in his not-at-all beautiful mind — but it’s possible that he became aware of how he looked, playing golf as millions of desperate families lost their unemployment benefits.

Whatever the reason, on Sunday he finally signed an economic relief bill that will, among other things, extend those benefits for a few months. And it wasn’t just the unemployed who breathed a sigh of relief. Stock market futures — which are not a measure of economic success, but still — rose. Goldman Sachs marked up its forecast of economic growth in 2021.

So this year is closing out with a second demonstration of the lesson we should have learned in the spring: In times of crisis, government aid to people in distress is a good thing, not just for those getting help, but for the nation as a whole. Or to put it a bit differently, 2020 was the year Reaganism died.

What I mean by Reaganism goes beyond voodoo economics, the claim that tax cuts have magical power and can solve all problems. After all, nobody believes in that claim aside from a handful of charlatans and cranks, plus the entire Republican Party.

Strong opening. I hope he is right.

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Elderly,infirm,ill?
Come and join our pandemic queues for the vaccine and see if you can make it to the head of the line.

That is tantamount to putting a gun to their heads and pulling the trigger.

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Logan’s Run a few decades late

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Really, really hope Thom Nichols is being extra cautious. But Trump is reported to be considering this. It is possible he either would do it to destroy Biden’s presidency or to some how try to stay in power:

Because that would really kick start the New Year and make 2021 promising…

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Obviously if you are of a certain age you no longer matter in some(or many) States or Countries.
Sad.

For some reason I think it will be Venezuela rather than Iran. I guess Iran is too obvious a target and people on the both sides are working behind the scenes to avoid a catastrophe. Trump is unpredictable and his last atrocity would be something we feared less about.

To be fair, Obama failed to address the conditions that led to Trumpism. He could have been another FDR. Don’t forget that, Trump is just a symptom of the underlying issues that have plagued America for decades.

In addition, Trump in 2016 posed as an anti-establishment figure. He actually ran on the left of Hillary on trade and on the left of the Republican primary field on Social Security. He also promised to revive manufacturing, and that resonated well with Midwest working-class folks (especially WWC folks) in Rustbelt states whose lives were decimated by China’s rise. Meanwhile, Hillary was busy preaching identity politics (or at least was perceived as so) and she did not bother to show up in Midwest states at all when campaigning.

As for 2020, a big reason why Trump won so many votes is that many people were genuinely financially better off under his term, even though Obama should deserves credit for that. In addition, the Dems really took Hispanic votes for granted.

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Here is my reason why I supported Bernie (and Warren as well) over Biden in the primary: Bernie actually stands for something, unlike Biden who mostly banks on “I am not Orange Man Bad”.

Note that the Republican coalition has four/five groups:

  • Trumpist true believers.
  • Republican partisans.
  • Rich dudes who love tax breaks above all else.
  • People who actually like progressive social programs but are put off by or at least uncomfortable with the Dems’ supposed “SJW culture”/“Identity politics” agenda.
  • Joe Rogan audiences and some other anti-establishment folks.

The Progressive plan is to run a campaign centered around bread-and-butter economic issues to peel off the fourth group and maybe the fifth one - which would have led to a Dem crushing victory.

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Is there any fundamental difference between these three categories?

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Centrist Democrats who hope to chase after suburban college-educated folks (especially those in Southern states) may not think like you.

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You are right.

Specially considering I live literally half the world away :blush:

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Trumpist believers are often not rich

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Cruz is looking more and more like John Belushi every day. Wtf is this latest stunt by him and his mates? When are they going to accept reality? How can they believe that all this so called fraud took place without leaving a shred of evidence? It’s beyond ridiculous

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WASHINGTON — President Trump demanded that Georgia’s Republican secretary of state “find” him enough votes to overturn the presidential election, and vaguely threatened him with “a criminal offense,” during an hourlong telephone conversation with him on Saturday, according to audio excerpts from the conversation.

Mr. Trump, who has spent almost nine weeks making false conspiracy claims about his loss to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., told Brad Raffensperger, the state’s top elections official, that Mr. Raffensperger should recalculate the vote count so Mr. Trump would win the state’s 16 electoral votes.

“I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have,” Mr. Trump said on the call, a recording of which was obtained by The Washington Post, which published excerpts from the audio on its website Sunday. “Because we won the state.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

The jig. It is up.

Seriously…click on the audio link in the WaPo article. It is fucking scary.

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Remember when Susan Collins said she thought Trump had learnt his lesson after the Ukraine call??

FMD…

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This is childish, but it did make me guffaw quite loudly just now…am diving into Twitter re the Trump phone call…

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That doesnt even sound like Trump.
Thats just a fake audio made by his enemies.
It`s all fake news or something.

If it wasnt for those meddlingy kids he would have got away with it

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