I kind of fear, that while he may not run again himself, he will be the Spiritual Godfather (maybe, and I shudder to think this, also the biological father) of the next GOP candidate. That may be less chaotic, less insane, but it would still be absolutely awful for the future of the US and the GOP. Next guy could then also be more competent.
But maybe yesterday damaged his movement too much. I hope so.
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He was still luckier than Mussolini and his Moll.
Trump is finished already, and proceedings have not put him through the mincer yet. I will refer you to this in a few years. This is just the fear and unsettlement his tenure has caused wreaking havoc in the minds of people.
Even trying to balance the situation, I can tell people seem to think I am a trumpist, I am not anywhere near, I never took him seriously. Just trying to approach it judiciously.
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You all should be worried about who the Republicans intend to put up next!
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Sorry, if I came across suggesting you were a Trumpist. I didn’t intend that. I did intend optimist.
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No you did not at all, but I can tell others have. I do like Miles Davis though.
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We are. But that doesn’t mean that Trump hasn’t been phenomenally awful and dangerous and done tremendous long term damage (to use some of his favorite words).
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Biden is making a strong speech right now.
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Yeah, he really is.
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Haley, Cruz, Cotton, Saase, Hawley. Why worry? 
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I didnt say that but he might have done this level of impact now you mention it. Look the world is a crazy mess right now, the best I can say is expect more of this shit to come before it sorts itself out. 
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It’s not fun following International Politics these days, I prefer it when it is much more boring and bureaucratic.
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I’ll ask again, can’t the impeachment process continue after 20 Jan?
It could start now but then continue post-inauguration?
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I think it can because it also aims to prevent further seat of Office, not just removal; not as in Gervais and Merchant.
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Ta. I read it somewhere the other day and now cannot find it.
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It can, but the political calculus shifts dramatically. Costs go up and benefits go down for most actors.
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You should all hear the speech Biden is giving now, it is remarkably strong, He is not a good speaker usually, but he is saying the right things in a very impressive way right now.
If you are not watching it you should take a look later.
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He will still have a lot of influence if he wants it. His cohort of voters goes back at least thirty years to the Ross Perot voters of 1992 and certainly the so-called Tea Party Republicans of 2010. He doesn’t have to run for president again to continue influencing who gets elected to Congress. From what I’ve read, and what I suspect, many of his followers don’t regret yesterday at all. Naive to think he is weakened, except I would agree his chances to be president again are not great.
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Also ta.
If the narrative can be focused on keeping him from holding office again, and if they can get things happening (relatively) quickly, then I would say the numbers will remain favourable for a little while yet.
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Pew Research survey said 45% of Republicans supported what happened yesterday, and that survey was after the “storm”:
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I think the damage has been done to the GOP. Nothing will stop the MAGA gang (even Pence perhaps as a candidate) from channeling the same hatred and pushing the discourse even more to the right. Centrists like Larry Hogan have no chance in this party of being a viable presidential candidate.
What this does is push the democrats further to the left leaving little or no chance of consensus or agreement.
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