Only if it can be called the ‘England and occupied states thread’ 
Borderline not political, but I think it is because of him being MAGA and a public (idiot) figure in the US. In any case, this is fucking hilarious. The man has always been tick as a brick and I am not surprised at all. Very amused to watch a character I truly dislike perform his own character assassination. Good luck with your career, idiot.
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I can now go to sleep with a smile on my face, being quite entertained by a career suicide of someone I really loath.
Deathcon 3, guys. Deathcon 3 
This is big, even if only a rhetorical flourish
We have a partnership of supposed mutual benefit with the saudis, and to maintain our side in that we have sacrificed so much of what we allegedly value in the interest of being good partners to them. Yet every time the Saudis are in a position to show they are a valuable partner in the relationship, they do exactly the opposite. And yet questioning that has been like a third rail issue. This may not come to anything but it is long passed due that we at least consider it
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Well said Menendez.
There’s a sense in which morals go out of the window in favour of finances, when it comes to numerous countries dealing with Saudi Arabia. But if there is a country is big enough, and rich enough, to take a stand, then it is America.
I won’t hold my breath though.
The days of being a light shining on a hill have long gone.
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Few things would please me more than the USA finding some acceptable ethics somehwere in it’s Middle East policy and ditch the awful Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact which is their unholy alliance (thus Molotov-Ribbentropp is a good analogy since it’s an alliance between two opposing ideologies; aka liberalism and Authoritarian Wahhabism) with one of the vilest regimes on earth. It has led to unecessary confrontation and the USA and friends always taking Saudi side in their geopolitical struggle with the awful iranian regime (better and far more moral, to stay out of that Shia vs Sunni power play).
I don’t for a second think the US will ditch the Saudies however. But it’s good that Americans take note and are angry. But I doubt there will be a large policy change. It is Biden’s shame that he fist bumped that butcherer and many will not forget that picture.
I have no faith in the US at all, but I for one would like that beacon on that hill to at least shine a dim light. So if there is a God, please get rid of KSA ties and stop selling them advanced weapons and giving them fucking free military Intel. it’s really not possible to pretend than Muhammad Bin Salman is a nicer and more ethical ruler than Vladimir Putin unless you are willfully blind. The difference between ISIS and KSA is in reality very slim when it comes to ideology and laws.
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Yep the house of Saud needs beheading. MBS should be assassinated next time he’s overseas.
Made me uncomfortable to walk around Lackland and see Saudi Arabian pilots training there. All the while I’m thinking “aren’t we going to be fighting you one day?”
SA have done nothing at all to show they are worthwhile allies.
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Saudi Arab (and by extension UAE) is like Pakistan, not only they have been groomed by the West, now the monster has outgrown its master.
Also, nothing would be done against them.
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Don’t the US have a couple of thousand troops there just to man the iron dome defence against an Iranian threat ? Meanwhile Iranian drones are killing Ukranian civilians and SA is helping to bankroll Putin’s genocide.
You couldn’t make this shit up if you tried.
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That’s US foreign policy resumed in a sentence.
Apart from $ of course.
And as we all know, mere $ doesn’t mean you should be allies, and it doesn’t follow that your values are similar and so on.
But unfortunately that’s the world we live in, and have lived in for some time.
If you’ve got money, you’re in the club.
On a related note, I wonder if Trump was selling them nuclear secrets? Might never get to the bottom of it considering how he has the public, the politicians and the courts stacked to protect himself, but that’s my suspicion.
Of course he was , or at least trying to. That could be why he was so desperately trying to hold onto the classified documents.
It’s all conjecture of course , but like anything else involving him , I tend to believe all the accusations until proven definitively false.
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He could have been following Putins orders to get stuff out of the WH
Its’ already documented that Trump was being lobbied to share nuclear secrets (although in some cases that means power not weapons) with the Saudis and UAE. This in itself is not a problem per se, but the lobbying was done illegally, and the admin responded to it in violation of rules that control such decisions. Essentially all parties tried to do it under the table. You are free to draw your own conclusions as to why they all didnt just follow the existing path that is there to manage this sort of process.
Not mentioned in these is that Barrack was simultaneously making moves to buy Westinghouse, a company whose stock was under pressure because of decrease in faith of nuclear power elsewhere. Buying that company prior to it being known that two of the key members of OPEC were shiting to nuclear would be enormous.
As with a lot of Trump’s issues, a lot of the motivation can be pared down into simple greed and opportunism rather than these grand conspiracies people imagine. Some guy with money saw an opportunity to make more money and Trump was willing to use the government to help him do that if he got a cut off the top.
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The kowtowing to the House of Saud all those years ago will in later centuries, and maybe decades, come to be known as one of the gravest mistakes of the time. One can understand why as the reliance of the entire world on oil is undeniable but everyone has doubled down since in the face of ideological differences between East and West and, of course, religious fanaticism.
I’m no expert on the matter at all and the West has made a right pigs ear of it all but Russia has got no real force projection capabilities now and their equipment has been shown up as inferior, if capable in the right hands. Call the Saudis bluff, they’ll fold like a house of cards without US support and they know it.
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All while everyone with a vested interest in petroleum acknowledge the days of a world being powered by it are quickly coming to an end.
What does need to factored in though is what they like to spend their vast amounts of money on, and how influential those companies are in directing our government. In that perspective, it is not the oil per se that will finally end our partnership with the Saudis, but their lack of wealth making them a less important funder of the weapons and defense companies.
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The shock and horror.
Fuck, she is desperate. A textbook case of politics appealing to exactly the sort of people you dont want in public service.
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