Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 1)

How much of this are people with a passing interest in US politics picking up?

It’s fucking wild what he is doing. It’s wild in an absolute sense that ANYONE would do it. It’s doubly wild that he’s done it after positioning himself as being all about freedom, being the anti-snowflake who doesnt care about your feelings and somehow still having his rhetoric taken seriously by large sections of the press

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False equivalences alert: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ilhan-omar-house-committee-republicans.html

It fucking astounds me , for one.

That’s the entire Republican Party in a nutshell…

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:see_no_evil:
only in the sense that he got away with it and it’s taken a while for the chickens to come home.

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How very petty

The criticism she gave to Israel was warranted. It was also in line with what international humanitarian organizations have said, when giving fair criticism to Israel.

Still, out of an abundance of humility, Omar apologized and then also boosted relations with her Jewish colleagues in Congress, as mutual understanding grew. It was nice to see, all round.

Interestingly, the Republicans have said far worse about Israel. Marjorie Taylor Greene was anti semitic and also hard of heart and completely unapologetic when confronted with it.

Removing Omar is vengeance politics, and completely one-eyed in overlooking the problems within your own ranks.

The Speaker is one of the weakest I’ve seen, kowtowing to the lunatic fringe in the Republican Party. Actually, I misspoke, as it is not a lunatic fringe. That is what the Republican Party has become.

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:see_no_evil:

Tom Delonge Wtf GIF

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Oh boy :flushed:

Jeez China :see_no_evil:

This balloon drama is a bit ridiculous.

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Distract distract distract

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It’s a lot of hot air

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Apparently there were three other balloons the Trump administration failed to track :rofl:

Trump blowing hard denying this

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The press by and large have again shown how unserious they are in covering anything. They don’t need to pretend to believe that the criticisms of the way the administration handled the situation are real. But they collectively seem to have this perspective that the “people” will believe the criticism so they have to cover the criticism as if it is real, eliminating their own agency.

So I was relieved to hear a conversation yesterday on NBC that acknowledged the criticisms were junk and the response was competent and utterly uncontroversial. They acknowledged that had Biden done the opposite, and even one person experienced even trivial property damage then the criticism from the GOP would have been just as intense. But then the twist. The treated the falsity of the criticism as a Washington problem, not a GOP problem. They then suggested if this was Trump and he shot it down over land (something they’ve already acknowledged would have been the wrong action) you know the Dems would have criticized it. You know, because of politics. Somehow completely forgetting they’d already acknowledged doing so would have been the wrong response. They have denied Democrats the licence to criticise the GOP for doing objectively wrong stuff without dismissing it as broken politics.

What is odd is that the truly serious side of this story has barely rated discussion. There is no way that Xi did not want the now-cancelled meetings with the US. There is no gain from agreeing to them, then provoking their cancellation. That in turn suggests that either Xi does not have a firm grip on the government, or the military is able to act on its own, or some combination of the two. None of the combinations are anything less than startling.

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But but but… Both sides!

That’s the summary of the problem. Judgment has been superseded by looking for the clicks.

FIFY!