Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 1)

Should guns be killing more children than cancer or vehicles in a “developed” western country???

I wonder if there is some thread the various investigations can tie together strengthening any sort of obstruction charge.

It obviously exists , Cassidy Hutchinson for one has already attested to that , but whether or not they have the time and resources to pursue it when they are already up against the clock is debatable.

The problem is you say that in this country and are accused of being pro cancer.

“Oh, you want more children to die in vehicular accidents? What is wrong with you?”

She is awful beyond belief. Mean hound, with a penchant for conspiracy theories. Unfortunately that sort of thing gains traction in today’s Republican Party.

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How on earth did people like her and Boebert get voted in? Genuine question to those who follow.

Also, how long are their terms and when can they get voted out again?

You can write an entire thesis on it, but it would essentially keep coming back to Fox. Had I have seen a segment of modern Fox evening programming 20 years ago I would have thought it was bad satire. It has created an environment where the party stands for little other the things they oppose, and over the years those things have become increasingly silly, often with grievances created out of thin air, and with a requirement that those grievances are pursued in the most vitriolic manner possible.

There are more complex theories. One of the ones I find particularly compelling is that by the 90s the Soviet Union had fallen and the Democratic party’s turn to neo liberalism shrunk the economic ideological gap between the parties. Those issues represented 2 of the 3 pillars of the party and so left having to find a new purpose. All that was left was for them to oppose the Democratic party, and to do so simply because they were Democrats. You then have a throughline to thinking Obama drinking Guinness is worthy of criticism because if he’s a democratic president you just have to take on an article of faith that what he does is bad, and you create an argument for why that is so later.

But fox is where all of this crystalizes. Unfortunately, what we’ve seen with the Dominion case is they did this so successfully they are no longer leading the discussion but responding to a demand

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Terms in the House of Representatives are 2 years. Also, there are 435 districts in the House, so that begets certain districts which can elect radicals of either extreme. That’s always been the case. Generally, though, such radicals do not get platforms such as Greene has been given. Careers of such radicals also tend to be shorter because they can sometimes neglect the more pedestrian needs of their districts. Boebert barely was re-elected, for example.

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What is this demand? Bigotry? An “other” to hate and therefore galvanise support around ? Isn’t it more that pandering to ugly age-old prejudices affords a cheap win?

Boebert is fascinating as she really appears to be a fully astroturfed candidate.

She rose to prominence by publicly confronting Beto over his proposals for new gun laws and very very quickly afterwards there was an entire political apparatus built around her and a platform given to her on Fox news. Within a month or so she announced her candidacy for the Republican nomination for her seat going up against a well known incumbent with strong MAGA bonafides. There was little in her past that was political and so given her links to that talent agency it is difficult to see her as anything other than someone picked to play a role and so is just taking those cues.

I think people will have their own take about why people who watch Fox do it, but what has been made clear in the Trump era is that Fox have lost the ability to make their viewers accept their line of thinking. How much they have created this situation for themselves is probably debatable, but what is clear is that their viewership now has their wants shaped elsewhere and will not accept fox trying to tell them otherwise.

People forget it now, but they were very late to get on the Trump train and only did so after it was clear he was what their viewers wanted. Likewise after 2020, they tried to treat the election with a straight bat and saw their viewers reject that take, and them, and the only way to win them back was to go full force on the big lie. The reality they are now faced with is they have little option but to continue peddling whatever conspiracy and grievance the MAGA crowd wants to be told is important and real.

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Chris has done a fair bit in recent years on the epistemological crisis on the US right and I think this is a great distillation of it. Yes, he’s a liberal and works for MSNBC but I think it’s difficult to argue with it.

https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1648843893796945920?s=20

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Yeah, that’s the burning issue in Michigan, unmarried people living together.
Everything else is fine in that state.

This is an interesting piece on the discrepancy between the reality of urban crime and the impact it has on elections

Bob Lee was the founder of Cash App and was murder in DT San Fran the beginning of the month. Large sections of the media covered it in the right wing framework of violent crime in Democrat run cities being out of control and is a blind spot for liberals.

The reality - Lee was killed as a result of a personal grudge not because cities are unsafe. And San Fran is objectively a safe place based on crime statistics.

Aren’t these assholes based in NYC? If it’s sooo bad why don’t they up sticks and move to Florida or Texas!

Also, this volume of utter lies they spew out is doing critical damage to the country…all in the name of profit?

Dems are in a pickle. They really need some prominent competition to Biden in the upcoming election. Surely, someone credible will see the opportunity.

At least they haven’t been taken over by a insurrectionist, conspiracy theorist cult.

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Why ? As long as Trump is the prospective Republican candidate , they’re sitting pretty.

Biden is uninspiring and well past his best. As a man he is old and doddery now. With that said, still magnitudes better than Trump.

I agree with the general point though.

I prefer numerous younger, more dynamic Democrats.

In a Presidential election, name recognition is something, and Biden has that.