I’m just watching now…they were in a counting station in Atlanta.
It’s all happening, it’s just the reporting that has slowed.
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announcements are due later this afternoon. I think we should hear more at 3 & 5pm UK time. Votes in most of the areas are too close to call at the moment and there is an uncertainty as to how many votes remain to be counted in most of these areas.
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I think this is over stated. Older Cubans tend to be more solid, but younger ones did vote for Obama at a reasonable rate. Republicans ALWAYS present the Dem as a Castro loving communist to this community but it only works sometimes. The feeling is it worked so well this time because of the utter shamlessness and singular focus of the Trump campaigns messaging, the fact they found these people where they actually are (youtube and whatsapp), and the relative lack of outreach from the Biden campaign.
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I don’t know if you often read him,but he posts an article a week, often two. The topic is often the Right Wing media bubble. But this particular article was written as the votes came in, as it became clear that half the electorate stood by Trump. That is what it is about and that is also why it could not have been written prior to the election.
As for the rest, I don’t know. I think you can fix moral repugnancy. I really do. But not in your media climate, never in a million years unless that changes. But for it to change, the elite that runs it must be certainly routinely challenged. It isn’t about just ideology, Trump voters don’t care about Left or Right even when they say they are, most of them do not have an inkling as to what left and right actually is, they certainly don’t mind leftists economic policy at times. They want power and the other guys to suffer primarily.
He’s gotta be conceding here. Hopefully, for the first time in his entire life, he does something gracefully. Not try and fracture us further.
Breaking news - counting update from Georgia!!!
Atalanta - 0
Liverpool - 5
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I think that is probably true - no community is completely homogenous. Miami Cubans skew heavily GOP, but an effective outreach can probably pick up votes from those who don’t reliably vote.
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He’s going, alright
I have another question. Have there been anytime in history where the Electors did not vote according to what the voters voted? For example, the people voted for Trump in Penn for example but when the electors submit their votes to Congress in December, they “backstab” the voters and decides to vote for Biden instead. That legally could happen right?
You were listening to a “wireless” in your car! How did you get onto the dashboard? Could you see where you were going?
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Depends on the state laws, they are called ‘faithless electors’. In 2016, a small number occurred for both candidates.
Also worth noting that those state laws have not all been tested against the Constitution.
ok because I just read that the submission to Congress will happen only in December and that means, technically, no one is confirmed the President until then? So that means if any of the candidates want to mess up the ballots, they still have plenty of opportunities right? What a complicated and strange system.
That is the bit I dont get. This election has not revealed anything we didnt already know. We knew he maintained a high level of support from the pre-election polls. We knew it from the fact that he never dropped in his approval ratings from the low 40s, no matter what awful story was in the news.
There were 2 paradoxes throughout the last 4 years. The “its the economy, stupid” people were unable to reconcile how such a strong economy could result in ONLY a 43% approval rating when it should have 75% or so higher based on historical trends. By the same token, those who were covering his awfulness couldn’t reconcile how the approval rating stayed as high as the low 40s. The only conclusions is that near half the country was steadfastly Pro Trump no matter what and only a tiny portion of the electorate was actually available.
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I don’t think so, he won’t leave the field without a big bang imo. For many years, he has repeatedly managed to solve difficulties and problems through lawsuits and lawyers, and he will, by all means try again. He’s sure not to give up that quickly. In the worst case, this could drag on for several weeks.
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Libertarian pulls from both sides. Smaller gov, less oversite on everything, have all the guns you want (rep ideals) , but without being married to the hard right christian sector. They also support gay rights, women’s choice, decriminalizing drugs and prostitution (dem ideals)- so it’s a merging of both parties. Hard to say which party they pull from, depending on which issue individuals think is the most important.
Very liberal in their ideals, very conservative in how they think gov should be set up and run.
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It really is. It is a system designed to acquiesce to slave holders and land owners while accommodating the need to traverse the country in a horse drawn carriage. but we cant change it to reflect the time because Jefferson was Jesus.
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The key to understanding is understanding what it comes from. National parties did not exist, it took days to cross a state to hold an election. After that all happened, states would send representatives to Philadelphia (later, Washington) to choose a President from the dozens of state candidates.
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Guess I could never be a politician. I thought a simple, who gets the most votes win, system is so much more straightforward but guess politics don’t do straightforward.
Not really.
But that’s coz my eyes were full of tears from laughing at the OGS/Utd pile on.
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