Oh I would moan if a Fulham player breaks Sadios leg but at least it would have happened in an important game.
Has nothing to do with my previous points.
Bye 
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Oh please, you would moan because with a top of the table clash this week he shouldnāt have been playing blah blah blah. And all your previous āpointsā amount to nothing more than moaning and hindsighting everything in various threads for months. Youāre just causing more aggravation to already frayed and fragile nerves. Enough.
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Not true.
Maybe youāre the one to give it a rest.
I will for now.
Good afternoon. Bye
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Clearly this was avoidable. Injuries happen and thereās no telling when they might occur, but this was avoidable. 87mins in a dead rubber gameā¦
Iāll take the slight loss of rhythm or whateverā¦this should never have happenedā¦
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The modern fan: knows all about, diet, fitness regime, which players are in the red zone, which players will get injured, which players should be offered a new contract for how long and how much, the clubās finances, how the stadium should be expanded (architect), transport links and infrastructure, tactics, how to ease in youth and with which senior players, man management etc.
Itās pretty impressive.
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Itās been debated to death what should or shouldnāt have happened. It has happened and there is no going back. The team will adapt as it has always done. Mentality monsters!!!
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Nor am I surprised, his attacking play and vigour have been exceptional and defenders have been kicking lumps out of him for a few months now. I thought I saw a particularly heavy one in Denmark.
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Itās not disrespectful to believe that Klopp made a mistake on this one. We all love him to bits, but there is no need to turn this into a leader cult.
There are 8 or 9 lads who should have been nowhere near that game of football. Itās not just the game time is the travel and the affect that a two days out of time at Kirkby is going to have.
It makes no difference that it was an impact injury that did Jotaās knee. He should not have been on the pitch. Impact injuries are possible whenever a player is on the pitch, but you have to take into account the depleted nature of the squad and this is not going to get any better. Why risk anyone in a meaningless game that you donāt have to.
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Itās really, REALLY, disrespectful to label anyone who agrees with Kloppās decisions vs Midgetland as just cult followers.
Itās terrible that Jota is out for an extended period, it certainly in a very simplified way, seemed preventableā¦ butā¦
As youāve argued on another forum prior, itās not football manager, you canāt sell these guys the dream of playing champions league football, then not play them, Jota was no where near fatiguedā¦
Iāve never played at an elite level, but Iāve always played, and sometimes when you are on top of the cycle, you just want to play, yes, everyone loves the ābig gamesā , but playing an easier opponent can sometimes just be just as mentally relaxing and fun.
Think of it the opposite wayā¦ why does Jota etc who probably signed for the opp. To play CL footy, not earn the chance to play in this game???
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Example;
Last season we won the league, just the social league but quite competitive with very accomplished players.
The week after we won it, the coach sat one or two of us just to let the other lads have a run.
The issue with that, even at that level, is not so much sharing the game time, itās the fact you did a lot of work to get to the point where you can enjoy being on the park as a league champion, but you donāt get to play because, weāll, the jobs done.
And thatās not against the lads who deserved a bit of a run outā¦
And thatās at my shitty level
Iād imagine Jota would have cut up rough a bitā¦ not as in, handing in a resignation, but just enough to chip away at the fabrique
I know Iām not going to convince a lot of people, but you have to at least acknowledge, playing time is a factor, no?
Bigger picture?
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To me the bigger picture is managing a squad riddled with injuries in a season where games are coming thick and fast.
I doubt Jota signed with a guarantee on the number of games he was going to play, being rested in a pointless game in favour of being involved in the games that matter should be no reason to feel some type of way.
It is what it is, but like the Virg injury, the circumstances just leave a bad taste especially with Firmino really struggling.
Appreciate injuries happen, this was avoidable, I would have thought we would utilise the full squad registered in the CL. Explain the situation to the fringe players, might get beat but you get experience and you donāt cost the team anything.
Even if he played the senior players, he was on the pitch till the 87th minute!
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If you think that Klopp was right to play Jota, Salah, Trent etc then fine, Iām happy to have the discussion. My irritation is with the posters arguing that you canāt criticise Klopp or suggest heās made a mistake - a fair few of those up thread.
In my view Tsimikas is unfortunate but understandable. He needed the game, and itās a shame he picked up a knock.
Jota is not understandable. Heās been brilliant this season, and has quickly become a key player. To play him in a completely meaningless game is asking for it. Same goes for Salah. They might want to play and get CL goals, but itās Kloppās job to face that down and tell them both that Liverpool football club is more important than their own personal glory.
The answer to your question āis why does Jota not play thisā is that itās a compacted season, players are dropping like flies and he is needed for bigger and more important fixtures.
Case in point. Klopps inability to use him today may have const us two points, and may cost us more as Salah will be asked to go again and Spurs and Palace. Weāre back at the point where if anything happens to the front three we have Divock Origi starting matches.
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No, the posters backing Kloppās decision are not saying others canāt question or debate it. Itās the disrespect with which they are doing it.
Especially when neither side knows all the facts or reasons behind the decision.
Some of the comments; this is all on Klopp, Klopp too busy moaning about fixture congestion etc.
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What cost us two points is ignoring the shove in Moās back in the lead up to their goal.
And playing shit for the first 30 mins.
Going have to deal with that as itās the same way Palace will play.
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It is material that Jotaās was not a fatigue injury; he was kicked.
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When weāre playing this frequently we are not training properly either, meaning if the players arent playing in the games then they are losing physical prepardness. For most that isnt an issue, but Jota didnt get a lot of time in the previous games either. If youād kept him out of this one in favour of playing him today, that would have meant heād have only got about an hourās football in the two weeks since the Brighton game. That is not enough.
I see the argument for Mo, or for why we brought on Mane, but I donāt think it really holds for Jota.
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Yeah, but players werenāt soft divas back then.
Fucking snowflake generation.
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