Downunder Thread

first couple of ‘welcome to countries’ that i remember, everyone was silent and respectful, i really liked them.

i distinctly remember a turning point around 2023 womens world cup, i was at a warm up match when the welcome to country was on, and people were just talking, no one stopped to listen, and these were all what seemed like decent people, just normal humans, its just the whole thing was just performative as you so rightly said.

so yeah, send an email with the acknowledgement of country blurb at the bottom(i understand the difference between the two) …just dont expect it to resonate …

i literally dont care if the she/him customer care officer at the local council acknowledges country…i just want you to look at my dog registration application.

I don’t mind welcome to country at the really big events.

At day 1 of the SCG test a couple of years ago, I was in the front row of the members and Uncle somebody was hilarious when he said “where there’s a will there a relative” to finish what was a good speech.

Unfortunately it’s now lost its relevance, over PC’d and most people I know roll the eyes. Particularly when you are at a business presentation with 10 people and the presenter has to tick that box.

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Come on Aussie!

Build it in Sydney, they like all that sort of trashy shit.

They couldn’t afford Sydney

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They made the right call,the brand is shite everywhere.
Even the SA Premier well known for snagging what he can,has been quiet…so far.
Maybe the world has had enough of that thing,know I have.

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we already have one on melbourne…its called ‘crown’.

same level of souless cringe and money grabbing

Brave girl this…

This is a piece Neve O’Connor, a Melbourne woman, wrote a week ago about the Israeli capture of the Global Sumud Freedom Flotilla Coalition

"I was one of six Australians unlawfully detained by the Israeli navy in the Mediterranean Sea on April 29. We were sailing in international waters with the Global Sumud Flotilla, unarmed and carrying humanitarian aid: baby formula, blankets, and medicine.

Our fleet was approximately 1000 kilometres from the shores of Palestine, en route to a stop on the Greek island of Crete on our way to Gaza, sailing in the dead of night, when distress signals began coming in from other boats. Unknown vessels were approaching.

As flares went up, drones whirred overhead, and our communications were jammed, our crew scrambled. We didn’t anticipate an interception this far outside Israeli territory. Then I looked to my right and saw a huge white light beaming from a warship, scanning the sea, until it locked on us.

Within minutes, a swarm of heavily armed soldiers on speedboats surrounded us. This was an ambush. That was an Israeli prison ship. And we were about to be kidnapped.

Over the course of that night, one by one, 22 of our boats were intercepted. With rifles raised, Israeli forces boarded our vessels, smashed our engines, tore up our sails, and sank our boats, tonnes of humanitarian aid with them. 180 of us were taken to their ship at gunpoint.

What this dangerous and unprecedented escalation shows the world is that Israel is getting desperate. It shows that what we’re doing is working.

Why would a state with one of the most sophisticated and well-resourced militaries in the world be afraid of a non-violent mission carrying baby formula, blankets and medicine? Because Israel’s government is afraid of the international visibility it brings to their war crimes. Because the narrative they have carefully constructed to conceal their brutality from the world is unravelling, and no amount of material or political support can stop it.

When the world woke up that morning and learnt what had happened to us, condemnations echoed across the globe. Italy demanded the immediate release of their “unlawfully detained” citizens. Spain “energetically” condemned Israel. Turkey called it an “act of piracy”.

Australia said nothing except to “continue to urge Australians not to join others seeking to break the Israeli naval blockade”.

Shame and disgust do not begin to cover how I feel about Australia’s response.

To Anthony Albanese and Penny Wong: it appears there is no act heinous enough to impose sanctions on Israel. No number of children maimed high enough to stop Australia from being part of the supply chain that builds the fighter jets that bomb them. No war crime egregious enough to stop Pine Gap supplying intelligence that Israel uses to target its bombs. Not even the kidnapping of Australia’s own citizens in international waters, in clear violation of international law, has been enough for our government to act.

I am a 26-year-old from Melbourne. Why is the PM doing less than me? If kidnapping and imprisoning citizens is not enough for our leaders to choose humanity over their cosy relationship with Israel, then what is? Their silence is not neutrality. It is a choice. And history will record it as such.

Sumud is a Palestinian term meaning steadfast perseverance. It is the spirit of our mission. After Israel released us to Greek authorities, we said we were still coming, and we are. We still have boats, people and tonnes of aid. We still have a siege to break.

My treatment at the hands of the Israeli navy was nothing – nothing – compared to what Palestinians endure every single day. The people of Gaza have been crying out for help while the world looks away. I could not look away. I will not.

A special mention to the global Jewish diaspora and Israeli citizens who are protesting against apartheid and genocide, those who understand that “never again” means never again for everyone. Anny Mokotow from Jews Against the Occupation 48 is one of my fellow Australians aboard the flotilla, and back home, groups like the Jewish Council of Australia, Jews for a Free Palestine, and Loud Jew Collective have stood on the front lines of Palestinian advocacy, shouldering the burden of being labelled “self-hating” for doing what is right. Their courage is the true meaning of Sumud.

To the Australian people: your love and support were the first things I saw upon being released. It was monumental in helping me begin to recover from what was done to me. Your voice, your disruption, your solidarity, these are not symbolic. They are essential. Israeli occupation will be eradicated because of our collective action.

To the governments that have sanctioned Israel: thank you.

I will sail. I will act. I will sacrifice. Until Palestine is free.

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I agree wholeheartedly

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It’s a pointless argument as it’s about what you grew up on and associations with childhood memories etc.

However, Marmite predates Vegemite by 20 years, and thus cannot be described as an imitation.

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I grew up with Marmite and love it very much, but once I discovered Vegemite there was no doubt in my mind which is superior.

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Weirdo!

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:zany_face: :winking_face_with_tongue:

fun fact, and not an urban myth.

Vegemite was originally going to be named Parwill

as in;

Marmite, but Parwill.

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Have you all ever thought both really taste sucks?

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Noooo….hang your head in shame….Vegemite is beautiful. Had some for lunch a couple of hours ago!!!

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Where’s Promite in this discussion?

Termite. Bad. Dustmite. Bad. Flourmite. Bad. And we are supposed to think that Marmite and Vegemite are any different!

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