Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 2)

Your son and his friends sound retarded.

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Problem with alot of society. Too superficial. I’ll vote for the gormless but cruel wannabe dictator who is likely to leave chaos and destruction in his wake because the other side thinks that a man who wants to be a woman is something we should live with. People starving elsewhere because of aid cut, business tanking and causing suffering, cosying up to murderous regimes responsible for millions of deaths by war and famine and alienating alliances and friendships that go back decades… ‘nah all good bro because we can stop Larry who wants to be Sally from swimming in the gala’

Bunch of idiots, and quite frankly, so are you for spamming this thread with a never ending regurgitation of the same subject. You somehow manage to get away with it by posting a few other things here and there to get a positive reaction, credit in the bank, if you will, so I can’t quite call you an idiot except maybe a cunning one. Ta

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https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1903666713272480078

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Even assuming that Iran and Qatar and their proxies give loads of money. That doesn’t compare with the influence that Israel and their proxies has on the US govt in general.

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Oren Cass and American Compass - a “new right” think tank - criticize Republican orthodoxy on taxes and argue that Republican voters do not want to slash and burn the government.

To you I’m sure they do.

ITM you keep losing. You’re like the Everton of American politics.

Of course that’s true. But that’s not the point.

There aren’t foreign Jewish protesters physically assaulting and harassing Muslim students, or barring Muslim students from entering parts of the university, or setting up weeks long encampments, or canceling graduation ceremonies, or vandalizing school property, or vandalizing and intimidating patrons and owners of Muslim businesses, or chanting genocidal hate slogans and “Death to America.”

And if there are, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law and boot them out. I don’t give a flying f*** what your race or religion is. Abide by the law or your gone. We allow foreigners into our country. It’s a privilege, not a right.

Does that include the laws of grammar? :wink:

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The boy is off his meds and posting again. I expect once the nurse finds out we’ll get a bit more peace. Or perhaps he’ll be too busy not financing Elon Musk or whatever shite he came out with.

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Really don’t give a flying shit about the invention and delusion that is Religion.

I do suppose that makes me persona non grata in Trumpamerica.

Fwiw. I do think that any university grant needs to be analysed.

But with USA doing so much to fuck around other nations with , I’m just saying it’s Karma.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you saying that anti Semitism played a part in those University protests. I’ve got plenty of Muslim friends and I know how that whole discourse is run.

But from where I’m standing. US made that fucking bed. Let them get screwed.

And it means US and their foreign policy as such with respect to the Islamic world. Keep flip flopping around the whole shit (which includes arming the terrorists , launching a punitive action after the rats have bitten back… And then doing the whole cycle all over again )

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Something very weird is happening with regards to Covid right now. Even if you completely ignore the cranks, many of the people who have spent years criticizing the establishment views on how Covid was managed are now taking victory laps at being proven right despite no new information having come out that would justify this. It seems like the only thing that has changed is these people have simply outlasted the “establishment” in their enthusiasm to argue their corner, and so now are just saying the same things they’ve always said just now without the counter arguments. As @Arminius points out, in lots (most) cases they are substituting political science for actual science - the idea that significant majorities now report thinking we were too strict on school lock downs does not in fact mean it was wrong to lock down schools. That might be the right conclusion of a sober retrospective of the situation, but the arguments being made dont support that conclusions.

A lot of it is also bad political science. There is another line on school closures that is now being treated as proven right - measures of learning and academic performance went down therefore school closures were responsible for that. This shouldnt need to be said, but two things happening at the same time do not mean one caused the other. There is ample data showing a complete lack of association between closures and drop in academic performance. What these arguments astonishingly seem to completely disregard is the question of the context in which the closures occurred - how well do you think learning is going to be able to be sustained when society is in a place where the possibility of school closures are even on the table as an option? And in those circumstances, what happens when you dont close the schools? What is the impact of through the roof levels of absenteeism? What about lack of continuity in personnel with teachers having to be more frequently absent? What about just not having your mind on teaching/learning when all this shit is happening.

They talk about how Public Health lost our trust because they misled us. Many of these examples are dubious, but if we accept them as fact we cannot have the conversation about what Public Health comms did wrong without taking seriously there was a preexisting multi pronged effort by other parts of our establishment to sow distrust in Public Health before it even made any perceived missteps. It is simply not a serious conversation to have if you don’t acknowledge that from the outset politics was often used to challenge Public Health, that bad faith misrepresentations of what Public Health was saying were rife, that no grace was given from large sectors of society for the reality that the situation was dynamic and the recommended best course of action needed to change over time as we learned more things and as the situation on the ground changed.

No where is that more apparent than in the dumb distraction of whether the WHO would acknowledge this was airborne. People lost their shit at their refusal to update their language on this, but it is a term that has specific meaning in the science of virology that is not shared by its common non-technical useage. Despite the WHO not changing their definition of COVID transmission, their guidance on how to limit transmission was still consistent with what the common person thought airborne meant.

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Oren Cass saying Republicans are wrong on taxes

You keep bringing up Cass as an example of what the intellectual thinking on the MAGA right is, so I’ll just go back to my original post from November last year pointing out how full of shit he is

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https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1903822423977332932

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https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1903497711115993355

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This is the equivalent of the many “I reject the accusation that Trump said {insert accusation]. I was in the room when he didnt say it” defenses we’ve had over the years

This thing you reported is wrong, but it is classified information and so we’re investigating who leaked it.

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Notwithstanding your points about American foreign policy in the Middle East. Something like two-thirds of Americans now believe the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan should not have happened. However, the American government is completely within their rights to expel foreigners violating American law.

My personal belief Is that the Iraq war was either the worst or second worst American foreign policy disaster in history, with Vietnam maybe being the worst.

But there is a direct line between the disastrous Iraq war and the rise of Trump and American isolationism. What you are seeing today in America is a result of that war.

Highly unlikely that they can spare a decent amount given the dire state of their economy.

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Was this written by a child?

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@SBYM 'fess up. Was it you?

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