Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

Paul was a lot more pro women than people realize. When he commended fellow workers in Romans 16 almost half were women. Remarkable, given the time and place.

When he wrote to the church in Corinth, it was a given for him that women were allowed to play their part in the public assembly, unlike in Judaism.

Paul gets a bad rap for what he said to the church in Ephesus (1 Timothy ch.2) but it’s all about context… more going on there than most realize. Basically, he wanted to make sure learning took place first, before assuming a leadership mantle.

Anyway, for this thread, the fella above, an American Christian Nationalist Pastor, does t know the scriptures well to have the views he does and IMO he is a misogynist.

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i think i read somewhere that the real issue with the democrats is that they are more worried about liberal elite agenda than what truely concerns the American middle classes…

has anyone ever discussed that?

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For most of their time in office together, Ossoff has been overshadowed by Warnock. But this is a pretty good take for why Ossoff might actually be the candidate in 2028 that people look to Pete to be.

https://x.com/ZaidJilani/status/1955673882041688085

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Strangely, online I have seen probably more women than men who are attracted to this so called trad life. This may be coincidence, but I suspect the number of women attracted to tradtional gender roles is also very high.

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Not at all remarkable. Early Christendom in the the Roman and Greek heartlands, had far more followers that were women than men. It was a religion very much looked down upon for it’s “craven” non militaristic ways and Christians were at times persecuted, if you remember. Paulus lived long before Konstantin the Great was persuaded to convert, I would note.

It is not really strange that Paulus does not castigate women in Korinth when they were the greater majority. But as you note, he did this elsewhere, also in the Korinthian letters, where he basically says the same as the Nationalist above (be silent in the congregtion, have to ask their husbands to be allowed to speak and it’s a great shame if woman speaks 1. Korinterbrev 14:34-35 ).
Then letters to Timoteus and Titus.

It’s pretty clear that he modified his message according to the reigning culture in the congregtion he wrote to; since his message sometimes indeed differ.

Anyway, I’ve only had real bible studies for a year in college (just 2 of the subjects were about Christianity, rest about religion in general, so I don’t clam that much higher learning other than what I learned from growing up in a Christian culture as well as attending Sunday School as a kid and a Christian boarding school later in life) so you know this better than me, but I did grow up with this, including the excuses of conservative Lutheran congregations. I don’t pretend to have real expertise on the subject, but I do have some knowledge.

Edit: My refusal to anglicise these names is very much on purpose and not my regular bingo nonsense when I type (yes, I have some self irony). The Norwegian way of writing them is more accurate in any case, despite not being entirely correct either.

Second edit: Also, please note that I am not trying to insult your faith or arrest you. I grew up as a Christian, then was agnostic, then became a Christian Socialist when i was 16-19, later in my 20s agnostic, then short spell with Thelema in my 20s as a student, then agnostic and a Social Democrat again. I have always been drawned to spirituality and had great interest reading about religion, even though I cannot believe the bible due to inconsistencies and more, and those problems with accepting that increased greatly when I studied it more closely . But I have had a journey.

But I have just seen so many use Paulus for decades to justify this or that, so I know the usual tropes (and yes, I also know how selective they are). But there are many Christians I have a tremendous respect for (including historical figures). Some of the kindest people I know are Christians.

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Yes, I googled. I don’t have the actual numbers of letters and such in my head and no, I am not ashamed of that :rofl:

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I’d consider it, but only if you post 4 times in a row.

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I think it is higher than you imagine because many women don’t want to appear as anti-feminist. Part of it is just practical. As only women can give birth, it makes sense for many that they can take time away from full time work to raise a family and have a partner who can support that.

I think there is a big gap between conforming to gender roles and women wanting to essentially be owned by a man. There are women who do want that, but I suspect that they are a small minority.

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Yeah. The Trad wife trend is likely vastly over represented by the algorithms. It is a striking aesthetic and gets a lot of attention but I don’t know how many women are clamoring for that life…to that extent. Reshaping society so that becomes the dominant model is though a fairly central part of the MAGA ideology among male followers.

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I did see an item on German telly about it. There was a women somewhere in the mid-west going on about how she wanted to obey her husband and serve his needs etc. It sounded weirdly fetishistic. Like some sort of S&M role-play.

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For those who sometimes wonder where the zeal for support for Israel comes from in the US, even among groups who otherwise seem to dabble in antisemitism -

https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1955724036346142993

It’s about evangelical prophecies. It’s got nothing to do with the Israeli people.

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LOL when you have so many lies you’re trying to simultaneously sustain you lose track of which one you’re supposed to air at which time

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1955974409677668844

The question being put to her was about the normie claim that the spike in crime we saw during the pandemic has already been coming down back to normal levels, and the RW conspiracy theory that those statistics showing an improvement are fabricated. Instead of accepting the softball she argues the normie position, rejecting the Trump justification for needing to federalize the DC police.

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What a grade A cunt.

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The perception the right has of CNN being a propoganda arm of the Dem party genuinely amuses me. Always has, and even more so since the Discovery merger and the involvement of the Sinclair guys who publicly declared their interest in foxifying it

But look at this…Gillian Michaels is an idiot even in her specialist chosen subject of nutrition and metabolism, and here she is “debating” slavery and its impact? WTF is happening? CNN and the Abbie Phillips show in particular, is absolute clown car that makes us collectively dumber and worse off as a country.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1955822748376400367

Trump gave blanket pardons to all people convicted over Jan 6th charges, including over 600 people convicted of assaulting police. At least two members of his administration were physically present and participated in attacking police

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Journalist: Are you planning to offer Putin access to rare earth resources at all?

Trump: We have great rare earth resources. We did this as payment for all the money we so stupidly spent on Ukraine. We spent $350 billion. Now, Europe spent a billion. That’s a lot of money. They spent $100 billion. That’s a lot of money. But we shouldn’t spend much more than they did. And they understand that.

And I think that’s why we don’t spend any money anymore. We don’t spend any money. They pay us for everything. So it’s quite… People are shocked when they hear this. They don’t even understand it, they don’t even write about it. But we don’t spend money. But we spend a lot of time trying to solve the war. If we can end the war, we’ll be very happy.

As for rare earths, it’s not important at all compared to… I’m trying to save lives.

Note: none of the above is factual, except the fact that the US indeed, does not “pay” anything anymore.

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https://x.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1956018494853800089
https://x.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1956018785082859870

https://x.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1956044910949491070

Note: MAGA gloats online how it is such a win and a big snub to Putin, that the sumit is held in the former province of the Russian Empire. Except the Russians themselves do not see it as that, at all…

https://x.com/Archer83Able/status/1956062127929614800
Of course, everyone with even cursory knowledge, told him that this was the most difficult war to solve by far. They told him it was impossible without changing the Russian calculus. They told him the only other option to “end it”, apart from changing the Russian calculus by brutal pressure (as well as pressure on the Russian economic allies) was a decisive Russian victory and a Ukrainian capitulation. Everyone told him this, except a few useless American sycophants.

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