Fortunately, all men die. But I suppose you were alluding to the office of the presidency itself.
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All I can come up with is the none Maga crowd also turn into crazy idiots and thereâs a blood bath. That would sort it out for a while until Maga start turning on each other.
There must surely be some hope, however small, to a return to normalcy where your brother isnât your eny because he thinks a different political party is a better option. That hope, it must be said, rests with the Republican Party and if they can shrug off the poisonous vine strangling their senses. Hate and bigotry rule the day and anything goes as long as it shows the libs, even if that means cutting off their own nose to spite their face. Thing is though, with their stranglehold of social media and the subservience, as well as complicity, of the main stream media alot of them donât actually know theyâre being maimed as well. It will take political will from Republican leadership to extricate themselves from the vile deal theyâve made with the devil for power. Will it happen? I doubt it, but we can hope. Until then, everything absurd, hateful and sickening is on the table as long as itâs making their enemies enraged and disenfranchised.
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Death - possibly. The current trenches are so deep that there will likely be a need for a couple of generations to pass (with great to fantastic economic growth - not a given) before anything can clamber over/tunnel across to allow a meeting of the two sides. The path is set on a downward trajectory - sadly. The only hope is in the children of the children of todayâŚ
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The Tik-Tok saga seems to have come to an end. Trump and XI had a phone call and have reached a mutually beneficial agreement. After lots of speculation about which friends of Trump would benefit , it now seems that the people who run Fox will now control the algorithm. More great news.
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While it may look very different in how it plays out, the next non-MAGA President will be in Lincolnâs position. Any exercise of duly elected authority to address obvious problems will necessarily elicit explosive and likely violent resistance.
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I think he is a bit too kind. If it hits 10/10, that means that everyone is marching but those who are repressed into silence.
https://x.com/VladVexler/status/1970013169574629503
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I donât really think the Democrats will win the next election since more and more Americans are naturally indoctrinated day by day into the new normality, but if they do, yes then I certainly agree with you assessment that the Far Right will refuse to comply and react with violence.
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I used non-MAGA quite deliberately there. In the unlikely event that an old style Republican was able to win the GOP nomination, even one like Bush Jr, I think the same dynamic would play out. A Democratic President will almost certainly face violence, but a Republican who tries to tack away from populism would likely face electoral revolt in the House in particular.
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Itâs a huge assumption to talk about a non maga president for a number of reasons.
Firstly, there may not even be an election. Itâs not impossible that the present administration will manufacture a crisis which will be used to create a permanent state of emergency that will indefinitely postpone an election. If a vote does take place, it will be under conditions of extreme intimidation and coercion and a democratic result will be impossible.
The chances of a free and fair vote under this regime and extremely slight, or negligible.
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I just forced myself to watch the entire thing. That was a nazi rally speech from someone who no longer bothers to hide it. Forget Trump , this motherfucker is the most powerful and dangerous person in that administration.
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The entire aestetich is rather Leni Riefenstahl-like (but not as good or awe inspiring obviously).
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1969872474004488584
But it seems to me that they are trying.
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I donât think it is sociopolitically possible for a non-populist, non-nationalist Republican to win the nomination at this point without a white swan event. Itâs an unstoppable movement at this point, I think.
Just a joke, but
https://x.com/RasmusJarlov/status/1970085213532492081
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MAGA has no ideological grounding and that makes it really uncertain what continuity with whomever comes next would even mean. We call it populism, but he doesnt really deliver anything populist, and often doubles down on the things that fucked his supporters and made them open to a populist strong man in the first place. Given that, continuity will be more about vibes and retaining the support of the MAGA base regardless of what the administration ends up standing for and doing.
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But Limie, at what point in time could attitude become so ingrained that it becomes ideology ? Many people are ideological without actually understanding the ideology they follow. Of course, that means that there are always holes in these peopleâs ideologies/philosophies and that it wonât academically be sensible, but at a certain point in the process (what I think is radicalisation) people wonât notice that they have truly changed; I think.
I think there is an overwhelming degree of Mass Suggestion in the United States and that flows gradually in terms of radicalisation.
But I donât claim to know. I am asking for debate purposes because I think it is intellectually interesting and because I am very skeptical that this movement will just go away if the MAGA top echelon just died in a plane crash.
Edit: doctrinal is a better word than ideological here, butâŚ
As for what the ideology is, I would suggest National Populism would be the closest. Not a perfect match obviously:
I would however suggest that Trump and those in his click, are not ideological, but that the masses (and certain individual in the admin) are. The masses donât follow him because he is a Kleptocrat, after all.
I would also change the text to " with the latter being aimed exclusively at promoting the quality of life of the partyâs own voters, taking a welfare chauvinist]" etc.
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âDisneylandâ lol
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It already is. But it is so specific to supporting whatever Trump says or does in a given moment that itâs difficult to see how you can find a continuity in a post-Trump era. It feels like it will be a case of different people/wings making different claims about what MAGA is and seeing what wins out. That isnt too far from what happened in the last election with Vance, De Santis, and Vivek all claiming to be the heir to MAGA with different ideas of what Trump really means when he says x.
I think there if there is a throughline that will allow us to identify it as a continuation of MAGA it will be the focus on internal enemies. You might well end up with something like George W Bush policy but implemented through a vengeful authoritarian way that you could quite easily call MAGA
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Spot the difference.
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