Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

The ballroom is a big story, but the lack of a construction permit apparently doesn’t matter, given the Supreme Court precedent that while in office, whatever the President does is essentially fine. It’s galling and it’s wrong, but the way Trump acts in ways that are above the law, and the way in which the Supreme Court has allowed it, means I won’t be holding my breath for the permit to come through to approve construction.

In many ways I think the ballroom is just the thing, for Trump. It changes the news cycle in the direction of a fight that he does want. And it appeals to his vainglorious disposition.

Meanwhile, the AZ congresswoman has not been sworn in (I think it’s now 5 weeks after she won her election), the vote on the release of the Epstein files has not happened, Trump’s past involvement has not been investigated properly, Trump’s ICE Gestapo-army is terrorizing blue cities, generals and admirals are leaving the armed forces because they don’t want to be part of a dictatorship, and the government shutdown continues to harm millions of families while Trump grifts along and enriches himself.

I’ll offer a slightly contrarian view on the ballroom, gaudy and unpleasant as the whole process is. Compared to numerous other things that are going on under Trump, it is not that big of a deal. Yes, it will look like Liberace’s boudoir, and yes, there will be back-handers and favors all around it. But at the end of the day there will be a suitable meeting space for grand, head-of-state type functions. I could live with that, if only more important matters were addressed.

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DoD?

you mean DoW? :wink:

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That refusal to speak the new language probably just got picked up Palantir and now has me on the no fly list

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funnily enough, Adrian Goldsworth does a lot of talking in his book ‘the fall of the west’, comparing America with the Roman Empire

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Yep. No holidays flying over the Gulf of America for you :joy:

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Nah, even 15yo’s aren’t that stupid. It is more like a bunch of 3yo’s failing to understand why they are tired after refusing to sleep during naptime

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lol

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I see the whole thing as an edifice to Trump, by Trump.

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During the campaign there became a common talking point, driven by people who work in the media and need their voice to be considered important, that even if you agree with the criticism of the framing of campaign stories by NYT and WAPO in a way that sane washed Trump that such coverage has no impact on electoral chances because people who read those outlets are overwhelmingly pro Dem already. I think that is a terrible understanding of the way uninvolved people learn they thinks they “know” but anyway, that was the argument.

Now these same people are arguing the Dem brand is bad because of a shift in language used in the DNC party platforms post 2016 to become too socially left and woke and so the solution is moderation, essentially more third way stuff. Um, who the fuck reads a party platform? Explain to me how this theory is reconciled with the argument about the unimportance of the MSM’s framing of their stories?

https://x.com/daveweigel/status/1982822720485126168

It’s worth pointing out a separate report Ezra Klein discussed on his show this week points out that the sizeable portion of the dissatisfaction the working class has developed with the Dems is not because they are too left, but because they talk about their left ideas and then dont follow through.

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Cool cool. The more reasonable ones are being purged in favor of the even less deliberate and professional faction.

https://x.com/reichlinmelnick/status/1982966633946620267?s=61&t=VxX1vHU3NOwwNhlbyICG-g

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That isn’t a fact though. But sure, cocaine is not the real reason the US wants Maduro toppled, Since Maduro stole the election, the opposition has been begging the US for intervention/s. Rubio is their man and he has a decent enough position in the US government and must swallow a lot of camels.

It is hardly unthinkable if he gets a “win” after having swallowed a serious number of other camels.

Then of course the oil reserves that mostly are sold to China. It would be nice to reroute them obviously. But I don’t really think that oil is the only reason, just one of many. Trump even denied export license to Venezuela not that long ago to strangle the regime and their income

As for Venezuela’s drug production, since Chavez 4th term, that seriously went up. If you can call it true factories, I don’t know. But it is certainly an extremely healthy Cottage Industry.

Anyway, I would be a bit cautious with unsourced memes, including from well meaning Hollywood stars. I would also generally always google and double check whatever is on a meme, always.

I hope you don’t mind this. I am not trying to be an ass, at all; I just want the information to be accurate.

Illegal drug trade in Venezuela - Wikipedia.
Petroleum in the United States - Wikipedia
Proposed United States invasion of Venezuela - Wikipedia
Venezuela's oil exports surpass 1 million bpd for first time since 2020, data shows | Reuters

I think you have to see this also in context with the geopolitical situation of rivalry. Rivalry between the US with Europe in tow, with China, but also Russia. Knocking down Russia’s allies are very easy wins for Trump (but it’s obviously not for that alone) and makes it so he can sanction Russia less (sanctions are costly), yet still aapply pressure through pressing Russian allies. It’s a shell game too this.

So many factors, although of course, I agree that the drugs is a Substitute Motive. But it’s a reason, but only one of very many. But if you add enough reasons together, you get a better reason to do something. It’s not just one factor, that is for sure.

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Do you think Mamdani comes across well?

I don’t know if you asked me, but I think so. I think he comes across really, really well and find him quite impressive, or at least seemingly so. But I don’t know everything about him. A lot of people would know a lot more about him than I do, to say the least. But I haven’t read anything i think is really bad about him, but a lot I think is good. I find it odd that he has no opinion on Ukraine though. He has many other opinions on Foreign Policy. Then again, he is set to be a mayor, not a diplomat, so maybe not that important.

But I don’t know if he comes across well for enough Americans, even if he does that for me.

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Do you mean in times of normality under sane leadership, or under current times of insanity, nepotism, authoritarianism and Trumps ego?

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I mean, New York is very liberal, so he might get elected there. But in the rest of the US, I think the Democratic Socialist tag, is maybe not the most popular one.
And under insane leadership, he is also likely to become public enemy nr. something (probably not 1, that would be more high ranking Dem, I suppose).
Under normal times, I do think the Democratic Socialist tag is generally damaging in US politics.

But I don’t know. Abnormal times may also mean that the old red scare may not be so effective, I don’t know.

But I am not confident in my knowledge about US domestic politics these days really. Old rules no longer apply since a long time ago. I like to read what more knowledgable people closer on the pulse than me, have to say. I don’t really understand US domestic politics that well any longer.

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That reminds me of a fantastic joke Gary Delaney joke from Mock The Week.

A friend of mine recently got a penis extension. Now his house looks really wierd

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https://www.npr.org/2025/10/28/nx-s1-5587932/washington-post-editorials-omit-a-key-disclosure-bezos-financial-ties

The Post has utterly gone to shit

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I very foolishy assumed that “swallowing camels”, is an idiom in English too. It’s not of course. In any case, what it means is that you have to make an unpalpatable compromise that you find quite distasteful, but do out of necessity.

Sorry for strange language…

Biblical in origin, but used in Scandinavian every day language to mean the above and I forgot it was sort of exclusive maybe.

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The New York Times has also degraded a lot the last few years, imo. Lots of Trump justification articles and quite a lot of Russland-Versteher articles, as they say in Germany.

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