Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

If blue states are going to be targeted by the current administration, presumably it creates at least a bit of a desire for secession?

I don’t know how it would work, practically speaking, but I note that the California GDP just went over $4.1 Trillion.

If it were a country, its economy would be the fourth largest in the world, only behind the US, China and Germany. It is bigger than Japan, the UK, France, India and all the rest.

I know it is likely unrealistic, for numerous reasons, but California carries a lot of clout and should not be bullied.

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While the video that refutes her version of events is playing on split screen.

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That’s exactly why they want it to kowtow.

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https://x.com/atrupar/status/1933181301231599772

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https://x.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1933253486830813584

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https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1933236707060822447

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1933222141282914736

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https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1933261013652279691

This is ridicoulus

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Go for it. Proclaim independence, and let the retarded red-neck states go back to the XIXth century, as they wish. NYC should do the same btw.

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https://x.com/atrupar/status/1933277884514210265

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https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1933285301302276498

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How many arrests will that bring?Should kill off the world cup,who would be game to go ?

Fucking scary shit going on right now. We have a Senator getting arrested for asking constitutional questions. First amendment rights being violated. We have Hegseth not admitting that there is a plan to invade Greenland, so there is. We’ve got the Congress acting like the school yard and whoever is loudest gets heard. Congresswomen accusing other congress people of murder. And the lies about LA are scary as fuck its almost believeable until you hear from Kimmel who is right there showing pictures of LA peacefully going about its business with a Pixar movie release going on. Riots, err no. 4-5000 troops costing 150 million to distract away from Epstein or whatever other bombshell shite from Musk let slip when the hissy fit was going on.

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I do not like the use of federal forces on the ground. I do not like agents covering their faces and arresting people. But those opposing what is going on around the country must understand why it is happening. And I don’t think most Democrats do so. It’s one reason why the Democratic Party is plunging to all time lows in approval ratings.

This was very preventable. The American people were very concerned about the level of illegal immigration and perceived that one political party was not serious about dealing with the problem. It didn’t matter what that party passed eight months before an election. They saw illegal immigration skyrocket and perceived the Democrats as not only ignoring it but encouraging it.

Americans have repeatedly told politicians that illegal immigration was one of their top priorities. And after being ignored for decades, they elected a demagogue to sort it. What one part of the ideological spectrum did not understand is that if the good guys weren’t serious about dealing with the problem, they’d elect the bad guys to sort it out. And they did.

Donald Trump was very clear in the election that he would deport all the people who were here illegally. He said it in every rally and every speech. He told you exactly what he was going to do. And as disturbing as it may be, he was elected. Now he’s doing what he promised.

Until the LA riots, public opinion was turning against him. But since the riots, public opinion is turning towards him. Did he do this provocatively? IDK. Maybe. But the point is that Americans do not like people breaking the law, including illegal immigration and especially burning cities down.

First, the American public approves of the ICE raids.

https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932911958254366989?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

The Democratic Party is hitting all-time lows. No party has registered such numbers.

https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932861766456738083?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

The Democrats bungling of immigration has turned Americans decisively against illegal immigration. This is from a recent WaPo poll.

Most people approve of Trump’s deployment of the National Guard

There has been a 40 point swing against the Democrats re immigration amongst immigrants in 5 years. Why? Because immigrants don’t like lawlessness and public disorder.

https://x.com/forecasterenten/status/1932441141237989444?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

To understand how much the Democratic Party has changed, here’s Obama

https://x.com/americareal3/status/1932237443627167949?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

And here’s Biden

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1932389659281363170?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

Here’s Bernie Sanders arguing against immigration.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1932935170379645334?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

And again.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1932971709612933432?s=46&t=o3XUPKxiqJH7KZYdWMCtqg

Sanders has since changed his tune. That’s because culture war issues have overwhelmed economic issues in the Democratic Party. For 50 years, Sanders was an advocate against immigration because he cared about the material wellbeing of American workers. But the Democratic Party became beholden to its progressive activists who cared more about the global poor than the American poor, so he had to change his message lest he lost the progressive left.

This is a losing position for Democrats and the left in general. People like some, legal immigration. They don’t like massive, illegal immigration. They want order, not violence and chaos.

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(…) You ever watch the JFK movie. They explained an elephant tied to a daisy with shitty data to bamboozle the populace to explain the magic bullet - you just did the same thing with your post.

We’ve got people on the gound telling us LA is not in a scene of riot, yet you produce a bunch of propoganda. Its fucking scary. That Senator was manhandled to the ground, arrested all for asking a question. And its on video. Yet its all a fucking distraction away from Trump whose got shit going on he doesn’t want attention on. Distraction and lies and propoganda - billionaires own the media.

And sorry for the colorful language everyone.

Edit: post edited by a mod, taking out a personal insult.

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Great post!

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Thank you for the lengthy post. I think there is some kernel of truth in there, but also a lot of horse shit. The Democrats need to find a leader and a platform, and speak to enough of the country in such a meaningful way that they are voted back in. If free and fair elections will become a thing again, that is. They definitely have their issues and need to regroup and do better.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle…

It has become an authoritarian state, one that is well on the way toward full blown fascism. Checks and balances be damned. Judiciary be damned. Universities be damned. Science be damned. Law firms be damned. Robust media be damned. Free speech be damned. Etc. Etc.

Trump just switched the agenda overnight. His largest donor outed him as a pedophile (not in so many words, but that’s where the trail would go if America was free and not authoritarian).

But Donny has been ducking and diving his whole life! So he started to pick on LA, and California. It whips up his base and they love it. Your post is evidence of that. I haven’t seen you or Luis Suarez in a long time, but as soon as Trump pulls this shit, you are here to “educate” the masses. It grates.

Trump and the movement he leads is abhorrent on any number of levels. America has truly lost its way under this man.

In a post-truth society, his MAGA minions enable it. Thank you for reminding us of this.

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Already did research on this. It’s incredibly hard to break away. Californias own rules kind of lock them into staying. I’d move back over there if they did. My company is in SF just would take a hit on my standard of living.

https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/1933304407979893086

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https://x.com/EastEndJoe/status/1933292312391758127

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