Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

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https://x.com/RadioFreeTom/status/2013357751028642016

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Fukuyama incredibly late to the table as always. The end of history indeed.
This is something Malcolm Turnbull has been saying since before he became president again.

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I’m not sure if it’s helpful quoting such pathetic wind up accounts. It doesn’t really aid understanding or improve the quality of the debate.

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The History of the United States

Green = Systemic Racism

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I visited Cincinnati in 1999 and it appeared to have de facto segregation. Our friends who we were visiting had warned us in advance about it, but it really surprised me. It was also noticeable how black Americans immediately warmed to you on hearing a British accent.

I didn’t find that so much in New York, but I was only there for a short while, and mostly in Manhattan.

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The Orange one has passed judgement (a snip from the beeb).

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To be honest I think I could end the threat of any invasion of Greenland, at minimal cost.

I would officially rename Greenland, Epstein Island. No way Trump would invade then :rofl:

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He will rename it anyway - something like Freedom Island or Trump island… maybe New Europe

Funnily enough…

The last islands the US bought from Denmark were the Danish West Indies, now named the Virgin Islands.

In among those islands is an island called Little St. James and Great St. James, aka Epstein Island!

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Does Trump realise that it is NOT the Norwegian government that awards the Noble prize?

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Not sure. The new right-wing prophet Fuentes is already calling Epstein ā€˜really fucking cool’ (you know, like Hitler and Stalin). There is no limit to what these people will go to.

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Well,he is a tad thick…like two short planks.

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That’s too simple for me. Trump and MAGA are definitely a problem, but let’s look at where we are now: Russia invading Ukraine and maintaining a high-intensity war since four years. That is definitely the main security problem for Europe, and looking forward, especially for countries like the Baltic states, Moldavia etc. Russia is applying hybrid warfare there, just as it has done in Ukraine, Georgia and elsewhere before.

Also, as @ISMF already stated, Putin has been very clear about his long-term goals, which are to restore the greatness and power of the former Soviet Union.

Trump plays into Putin’s hands right now as if he was his marionette (maybe he is), but for me, the main security threat is and remains Putin and the gang of questionable people he has gathered around him.

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Emily Maitlis is one of the few people telling it like it is:

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They are equally dangerous in different ways. Russia has always been a threat, so it’s more predictable. Up until a year ago or less, we considered the US to be our ally and partner, now that has been thrown into question, leaving huge amounts of exposure in espionage, military hardware, and other overlap. Trump is also surrounded by extremely ā€˜questionable’ people who are dripping poison into his already addled ears.
Both are dangerous, but Europe and the UK are completely unprepared for a situation where the US is an enemy.

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Yeah, I agree on that. It’s a fucked up situation…

I think that Putin is at the heart of all that though. He’s in charge of Russia since 26 years. Only six more years to go, and he’ll have outlasted Stalin, whom he admires (Putin In Stalin’s Mirror | Hoover Institution Putin In Stalin’s Mirror). He has had time on his side, and is a proven master manipulator (after all, the whole of Europe was tricked by him during at least 15 years before he invaded Ukraine), and must have some influence on the current US government right now. If Trump was remote-controlled by Putin to destroy NATO and all existing and working relationships within the Western block, and thus to weaken the US and Europe immeasurably, he’d not behave otherwise.

Actually, call me a fool, but I have difficulty to believe that there isn’t at least a part of Russian influence playing out in this current nightmare scenario.

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Europe’s biggest weakness is respect for the US.

They are looking at Trump as someone transient; that common sense will prevail. What I think we are seeing now, is a major shift. A resetting of the world order that has lasted 80 years. Something the US may never recover from.

Major ramifications for Europe, Japan, Korea, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. I suspect we will start seeing new trading blocks, new defensive pacts. Even if the US does not invade greenland, trust and respect is reaching a point were confidence it lost. The UK government for example must seriously be considering shifting from Trident to partnering with the French, the risk of 5 eyes continuing, and service contracts for equipment.

The US is no longer a reliable allay, and as such countries must plan for this, and quickly.

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Exactly. Just listen to people like Peter Thiel (and by extension, his puppet JD Vance). They despise the EU, NATO, UN and basically everything non extreme right-wing/authoritarian European. Trump might be swayed by power and shiny things or simply be compromised, but these people hate us from a deep ideological place. Not surprising they line up with Putin so nicely.

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I still think people are treating the situation like it is ā€œjust a passing phaseā€. I think many industries are taking it that way also…

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