Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

Yeah, watched a couple of clips from supposedly non-Trump aligned outlets, just to see the vibe of their Iran coverage. Mostly focussed on Trump flip-flopping and ‘oooh, some people in MAGA world don’t like this, watch them fight, and how does this play with his base?’.
This is how you might cover a campaign, but not the possibility of entering a direct war with a 90 million people country.
Justt another day at the office / circus.

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Someone said to me a few years ago that the establishment US press only has 4 about stories. Those stories are then the template for everything they cover and every day is just an exercise of how to shoe horn what is currently happening into one of those templates.

It was a real lightbulb moment for me in terms of reconciling why I was always so dissatisfied with the way press covered stories.

Trump orders the national guard to capture and arrest Pelosi so she can be tried in a military court for treason. The press “Trump leans into presidential powers in a signal to his base”.

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Fricking hell, you actually had me googling this because I wasn’t entirely sure if this was a fictional argument or I had missed the news.

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This is amazing. This is a conversation between NYT columnist Ross Douhat and Matthew Continetti, one of those “College Republican” sorts who works for the American Enterprise Institute and worships at the altar of the fake version of Regan the GOP invented

Firstly this is wrong on the merits. Garcia is not “illegal”, but even if he were that does not mean he is not one of Van Hollen’s constituents. Equating constituents to citizens is something he has completely made up that goes against clear definition of how a congressional district is made up and who it is created to represent.

Secondly, this is a mask off moment for Continetti. He had one of those “is my belief system based on a lie” epiphanies during the first Trump term in realizing the conservative moment he has always claimed to speak for, the Paul Ryan movement they always pretended is what the conservative movement was about, didnt really exist. It is today and always has been about a nativist or racist impulse to restrict the goods of the society to those they think are worthy. He wrote a very well received book laying out the history of the movement and how his ideas were really never more than clothing they dressed the movement in to allow them pretend there was a more excusable ideology behind it.

He abandoned the movement and became probably closest to a third way dem. Now here he is being indistinguishable from a Bircher.

You probably missed it due to the wall to wall coverage of infighting within the Democratic party on the best response to new rasmussen polling showing that 99% of “independents” think the government should be able to execute registered democrats

Methodology of the polling reveal this was actually just Steve Bannon responding 99 times to the poll, but that is not covered in the write up

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https://x.com/ABarbashin/status/1935688726606168352

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Have to wait for what? How is actively taking steps to remove sanctions a case of the right thing to do having to wait?

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And regarding the nonsense that I have been reading from the US media on politics the last few days. There have been (I have personally read 2 articles and many twitter lines) a lot of coverage on what is an event that is going to be in November. This is while the US is falling apart.
https://x.com/tobiaschneider/status/1935664918864199851

Yeah, yeah, I get it. It’s the primary. But it’s still a decent point.

Attention span ? I don’t understand their spin to be honest. It has been normalised, but it doesn’t make sense to me and never really will.

https://x.com/Tazerface16/status/1934137071943524659

Did anyone else notice the song played by the military here? :laughing::laughing::laughing:. They’re taking the piss out of Trump

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CCR have spent 40 years explaining to American politicians using that song that 1) they dont have permission to use it and 2) it doesnt mean what you think it means. It is an epidemic in American politics to be artistically illiterate in this way. Trump is especially bad at it and immune to listening, and specifically with this song.

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Genuinely don’t understand how one can misinterpret that song. It’s not like it’s subtle, they’re literally spelling it out

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Yes, yes, yes.
https://x.com/NotWoofers/status/1935704449768423458
https://x.com/NotWoofers/status/1935705288130040226

It says the words “The red white and blue.” That’s it. That’s the extend of their understanding.

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This is so indecent, but has been normalised in the United States at the very highest level. He is making a geopolitical statement, maybe an ultimatum, but chucks in a fat guy that he dislikes. It is so unworthy…
https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1935733560318796042

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The U.S. reportedly proposed a new nuclear deal to Iran, likely allowing low-level uranium enrichment (around 3%) under strict inspections, without dismantling Iran’s nuclear facilities - Reuters

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Like under Obama?

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Obama had the JCPOA. We’re going to call this the Trump CPOA. It’s much better.

Yes, the JCPOA deal was considered very good by experts, yes.
This one is a bit more humiliating for Iran though.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention ! Trump demands that they dismantle Fordow. And I don’t know if Khamenei is flexible enough to conditionally surrender like this.
I am worried he is not, after Israel attacked. I think it could have been possible to negotiate the closure of Fordow (using non published threats and more). But maybe not now.

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TACO CPOA perhaps ?

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