This whole topic makes me feel dirty, but it is a huge news story; the Watergate or Kennedy assassination of our time. As it is multinational in scope and beyond the bounds of any of our topics, I felt it needed its own thread.
It encompasses power politics, corruption, patriarchy, and many other important topics and will continue to rumble on, probably for years to come.
Itās going come flooding out, doctoring wonāt hold for long and we know the players involved.
I assume they hope they can hold it til a certain someone is 6 foot under.
Letās face it Andrew, Sarah Ferguson and Mandelson are small fry compared to who will be implicated we all know that. Oddly the one conspiracy Qanon couldnāt dream up.
I think it goes far far deeper than that headline abuse.
I get the impression he was some kind of middleman in something far larger
I donāt think itās much of a secret that rich and powerful people organise sex parties, often involving underage girls.
Do you recall Berlusconiās āBunga Bungaā parties. He was a card. How we all laughed at the debauched old creep and his sex parties with underage prostitutes.
I have heard Rory Stewart recall Boris Johnson trying to encourage him to attend such an event organised by an ex-KGB agent in which he was told āthere will be girlsā. This is on public record. (Stewart declined!)
Jimmy Savile got away with disgusting crimes because he had friends in high places. This was the dirty secret that everyone had heard rumours about, but that he freely got away with. Clearly they saw no reason to challenge it, because it was simply the done thing.
What I do wonder is how far those further down knew and pushed back on it. Andrew Windsor was a trade ambassador for the government department I worked in. I know that senior civil servants were unhappy with his conduct. I did ask my boss what the nature was, and he said something along the line of inappropriate comments (ātrying to emulate his fatherās humour, but without the charmā). Iām just wondering if they knew exactly what he had been up to, but that the establishment had closed ranks around him.
Some of the files which have been released are redacted which is the tip of the iceberg and there are 3 million files waiting to be released.
It is shocking to see how deep these high profile people are up to their ears in filth.
The people lower down in the respective departments who worked for or with these paedophiles, they may have wanted to whistleblow on these high profile individuals, but they may have been made to keep quiet with a knock on the door by intelligence services by scaring or threatening their families.
The people involved with Epstein should be made accountable and face prison, in my view, prison is too good for them. The victims of that evil depraved man should get justice and be vindicated.
Will any justice system around the world be brave enough to take these rich and well connected people on?
I can only think of mass protests on the streets by ordinary people may help, but with ICE roaming around abducting people, it may not be that simple
NYT here with a quick run through of some of the people who maintained that their relationships with Epstein were of no great significance beyond their business dealings. Trumpās most oft stated retort when in danger of being associated with someone elseās misdeeds (usually at his behest) is the famous ; āI hardly knew him.ā
It would seems that the self same excuse that is now being used by all those poor innocents unfortunate enough to have avaled themselves of his largesse , is being flatly contradicted by what is being turned up in their e-mail correspondence with him.
Gifted article , free to read ; https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/us/epstein-powerful-men.html?unlocked_article_code=1.I1A.7P7o.2UjpIkOxQVRY&smid=url-share
To be honest I think thatās exactly the point of drip feeding these partly redacted files. Eventually it becomes easier for the likes of Trump to say well so many people are in here - some no doubt with very limited/tangential/actual non sexual/business connections - that itās hard for the actual muck to stick.
Notwithstanding that thatās not what the law that Congress passed directed them to do. Estimates are that only 50% of the total files have been released , and that of those that have been , most of the redactions are unnecessary.
Trump has had virtually the entire DOJ working on this seven days a week for months just to sanitise further largely inocuous stuff. Just imagine how damning (especially for him) the rest of it must be.
Absolutely. But unnecessary redactions alongside some name links causing backlash further muddies the water for any specific instance involving him.
