I can’t believe that there wouldn’t have been offsite backups galore. I can’t in anyway believe there are/were no redundancies.
If this is true, then you can start believing in conspiracies not being conspiracies. And no, it wouldn’t be the Trumps/Bidens/Clinton’s, it would be people you have never heard about.
In terms of balance, can you offer any positive posts about him and his administration? There must be some, yet they’re difficult to find.
Nice both siderism there!
And this is your problem, this is the Epstine abuse ring, not the Trump and his administration are dickheads thread. It’s almost like its an inconvenience that the pedophiles gets in the way of finding dirt.
I’m assuming you mean one of these should be the complete focus and nothing else that has been revealed so far warrants more attention?
The problem is intrinsically linked.
There is evidently a lack of transparency, delaying tactics and obfuscation. When Bondi responds by talking about the Dow when questioned about the Epstein files it is a real problem uncovering the truth.
The issue goes beyond sexual abuse, but abuse of powers, in sider trading, blackmail and more. Even before you get to the conspiracy theories.
Biden and Hillary in the Epstein files? Billy boy is no saint, and has some things to account for, but has said he is happy to do so publicly.
Trump? More mentions than anyone else, a longtime relationship, numerous accounts of sordid acts…but yeah, link them all together. Disingenuous at best.
No problem for me at all to see how involved this guy must have been with Epstein. How many thousands of times is his name mentioned in those files? More than anyone else, isn’t it? It’s fair to wonder why.
But, let’s just ignore the lies, the grift, the corruption, the many obstructive behaviors, the way he and his administration casually use distraction techniques to avoid talking about this, such as attacks on other countries - how many children were ‘abused’ to death when that school was bombed? Oh, well at least those girls won’t be talking about it, will they?
This guy is mired in shit up to his eyebrows, so it’s no inconvenience for me to actually see how he’s connected. The way he smirks and declares that “it’s over”, “it’s boring”, and “no-one is interested in this any more”. That’s callously dismissive, at best. What kind of leadership is that?
Of course many others are involved, no-one is saying there aren’t, but there’s certainly enough dirt to find about this abuse of position and power by him and many of those closely connected with him.
Strangely enough, I don’t think anyone is jerking off to every negative post about him. There’s actually nothing to enjoy about any of this - it’s absolutely sickening, the stench is incredible. If he and his administration were actually just ‘dickheads’ that would be preferable to what we’re seeing from them, but excuse me for mentioning it.
So, as I said previously, if there’s anything positive you’d like to say about him regarding this subject, then I’d be interested to see. It was actually a genuine enquiry, a chance for you to defend him, but instead you chose to question and attack my motives. That’s a classic Trump tactic, isn’t it?
Exactly! I’d rather not be forced to confront this whole topic, but we have no choice, as it’s a very important story which tells us a lot about the abuse of power and status, the networks of wealthy and influential individuals, and the exploitation of the weak and vulnerable.
Maybe this will help explain what I am trying to get at:
clinton Here=> 11 -DOJ=> 3,861
trump Here=> 76 -DOJ=> 5,250
epstein Here=> 117
Chopra Here=> 1 -DOJ=> 3,559
maxwell Here=> 11 -DOJ=> 23,247
Giuffre Here=> 2 -DOJ=> 216
Just saying, the “conversation” is disproportionate, and rather one track. I understand the obsession to link Trump to Epstein, I just don’t think many of you realize how obsessed you are. IMO it takes focus away from discussing the Epstein abuse ring.
What is it?
Units, this table needs units.
Trump is linked to Epstein. There’s absolutely no doubt about that.
Why the Epstein Investigations Took So Long and Did So Little
Decades of tips and investigations yielded charges against only two people. A combination of missed chances, narrow laws and prosecutors’ limited focus helps explain why.
I’m not sure what this is portraying? If this is portraying how many times these individuals are named in the DOJ records, compared to on this Liverpool fan site, let’s not overlook the rather large fact that the DOJ is illegally keeping the records from coming out. Many millions of them.
The DOJ has been caught covering up accusations of Trump raping children. The Wall Street Journal have reported on this, and so have the New York Times. I’m sure other credible outlets have too. That’s still not proof, by the way, but the DOJ is covering it up.
Back in December they were legally required to release all the evidence, with only the names of the victims (the girls and young women who were abused) redacted to protect them.
I wish I didn’t have to say anything about it. It is awful, awful business. Trump is a key player, and if he is innocent, the way they are handling this is pointing the needle in the opposite direction. I wish we had coequal branches of government doing their job, but at present it is one ruler above all that, and all branches of government are bending to his will. It’s some of the worst stuff we’ve seen from the government of the most powerful nation on earth, so yes, it will obviously be talked about.
I’m not sure what this is portraying?
In other words both democrats and republicans are a bunch of fucking pedophiles…who have covered up this shit and are still doing so.
Key background to the Massie-Khanna bill was the official pronouncements from the DoJ, both the AG and head of the FBI, that they 1) had all of the relevant files, 2) had reviewed all of the relevant files, and 3) had determined there was no additional avenue for DoJ involvement raised by anything in the files.
All of that has very clearly been demonstrated to have been a lie based on what we’ve seen since the passage of the bill. Additional key context for this is the key pillar the Trump campaign made of “releasing the files”, clear evidence of the incredibly conflicted DoJ proactively, before the Massie-Khanna bill, trying to review the documents specifically to understand Trump’s involvement in them, and the incredibly unusual (seemingly illegal) treatment of Maxwell since her incarceration including an dubious off books 1-1 with Blanche that has never made it back into the public record.
A balanced perspective is not one that treats all things equally. It is one that treats things commensurate with their importance and relevance. Doing that requires knowing a bit about the situation, and ensuring that when you encounter information about it you evaluate it for what it is not what it needs to be to reaffirm your world view.
Source on the Democrats part? I’ve only seen stuff on the Republicans being involved so I would appreciate some information.
I think there’s been no evidence about his involvement with Epstein during a period of time where he’s been in office, no?
They know stuff though don’t they? Perhaps not the seedy stuff, but more on the role that Epstein played as some kind of facilitator /middle man.
I’m partly concerned that the US effectively questioning “itself” on what he did will miss the real crux of the issue which is the games they played gaining riches and influence.