Football streamers Jailed / Big Greedy Sky

The trouble is that when you buy a Sky or BT Subscription you are paying to watch a load of stuff you have absolutely no interest in. That feels to me like entrapment. I don’t want to watch the cricket or the darts or the Figure skating. I don’t even want to watch most of the football.

It’s now something like £30 for a pay as you go month sub to BT sports. And for that I get to see Liverpool once or twice?

I’m lucky in that I piggyback my Dads Sky, and I did some working out last season, when BT was £20 a month, that if Liverpool were on four times it was worth it. But that’s off the table now.

I’m at the point where I’d almost wait a watch the game on a full match site, than Stream. Streams are shit, unreliable, frequently go down early (like in the last two minutes of injury time against Villa FFS)

My mission this summer is to work out the whole side installing a firestick thing. My brother does this and rarely misses a Utd game.

But if there was some option to pay the Premier League or LFC directly something like £100-200 a season to know I could put the TV on and watch my team, I would certainly take up that offer. I think they are crazy not to look at this.

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As far as I am aware it only does pre-season friendlies not competitive games.

But if there was an option either directly with the club, or through the Pemier League to only access Liverpool games, that is definitely something I would consider. Personally I couldn’t care less about games that we don’t play in

Does seem very harsh max sentence for fraud/tax evasion is usually 5-6 years, I think it’s because it was a network & (not an individual) that benefitted in millions (as opposed to thousands) in fraudulent activity

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I did use a firestick (until I replaced it when I changed my ISP). Works well for the most part , and there are streams around (even if you don’t go the legal route).

I think the main problem with the premier league to give a club only package would be the revenue that would give a club like Liverpool with its fanbase as opposed to what revenue a club with a fanbase like Luton would get. Doesn’t mean it won’t be workable but Liverpool would ask for a higher percentage of the fixed amount per season (maybe 70%).

Damn. I saw a new thread and thought we have signed someone.

Just checked LFCTV go website , it offers

Singapore to the rescue.

Would be great if you could just buy a Liverpool season Tv ticket and watch your own clubs games.

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The argument against thst is that revenue for us and the likes of Manchester United would go up but the less fashionable clubs would suffer.

On the plus side, I know of plenty of fans of the likes of Sheffield United and Swansea that would be pleased to see their teams on the telly at all.

I could also imagine that millions of Manchester City subscribers would magically appear out of the woodwork in Timbuktu or somewhere.

Basically what I wanted to say earlier.

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Anyway w.r.t this , the objection seems to be made that these guys made money off of illegal streams. If they were providing a free service , doubt they’d even be taken to task.

This is how fucked up everything is when you get jailed longer for stealing streams than you do for child porn/grooming.

All those “football fans” out there who want their clubs to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on football players each transfer season…

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THE MONEY COMES FROM? YOU!!!

assholes.

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I had exactly the same thought. 200,000 subscribers, all living in the same phone shop in Hanoi.

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Amazes me that Sky still think HD is a thing. Its on Freesat and Freeview for FFS!

Simon Jordan spouts a lot of nonsense at times but he said if the Premier League didn’t renew with Sky, BT etc…and set up their own streaming app and charged everyone in UK £10 per month - overseas a little bit more - they would make far more money than they do now and it would cut out the illegal streaming.
The 3pm blackout is so old fashioned. Time for it to go.

Amazed these guys got 11 years - sex offenders get half that!

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I think most developed countries -at least countries where there is a real demand for football - have similar prices though. PL +CL in Germany has a standard price of €48.99/month then increases after 12 months, France for both is €34, I think it’s €45 in Spain( difficult to tell with Movistar’s and DAZNs distribution agreements), and £45 with Sky sports in the UK.

Like @Mascot, I hate the way TV licensing is going where they are splitting sports, like PL and CL, across different platforms then bundling with a whole bunch of shit I’m not interested in. I really only watch a few sports (Liverpool only in the football, Aussie rules, cricket, basketball and rugby league but all that for me at the moment is across at least 3 platforms. I’m sure it’s worse for many others.

A simple solution to fix that would be a 50/50 split - 50% goes to that club and the other 50% goes into a pool to be split amongst all the clubs.

It allows the bigger supported clubs to still generate income, but it also allows smaller clubs to still benefit from it.

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If you are upset with the unfairness of City and their extreme wealth, then you could understand any club smaller than us being upset with a proposal that guarantees we can get even further ahead of them which even a 50% split does.

If we are not interested in fairness and it’s a club free-for-all then sure.

I sense many fans a only apply the fairness rule when we are looking up (to City) rather than looking down to all the clubs below us.

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That’s the only way it changes I think but I guess it depends if the Premier League have the willingness to take on the logistics of it.

Then by centrally controlling it they could also pool all the subscription revenue and distribute it fairly across the league, eliminating the issue of clubs setting up their own streaming services and people subscribing to just their club.

And it’s not even just Sky and BT any more. There’s at least two full weekends exclusive to Amazon Prime. At least that is reasonably priced but the thought of giving more money to the slaphead Bezos for yet another super yacht sickens me.

Clearly there’s going to be a tipping point. Cost of living hitting hard and people will be making tough decisions. If there’s a market for illegal streams and dodgy firesticks then it shows the price is too high. I don’t mind paying but I want the choice to watch every one of Liverpools games and not feel like 95% of what im paying for is stuff that I don’t watch and am probably subsidising because of my interest in football.

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From memory, I think someone did suggest a few years ago a similar plan/idea and talked about using a streaming service like Netflix/Amazon Prime, then someone said that was potetially in breach of anti-competition laws.