You might be right… but not so sure
Wouldn’t that be ‘Plazzie’ as in Plastic Bag…!
Still confused… maybe it was just a typo eh.?
Moving the discussion to a more suitable thread.
Yes. Or I could be part of the Matrix while you are lying strapped into a bath tub.
We played awful, lacked some key players (Hendo’s red card against City!) and may have conceded a goal anyway against them. There is no guarantee we would have won either of the remaining games either. To put the weight of the season onto just that one moment just ignores all the other factors that contributed to that loss or our points situation - especially as we were robbed of points from the City and Chelsea games in the December due to bad refereeing.
It was widely reported throughout his tenure at the club. The week he was sacked Tony Barrett and James Pearce both wrote articles on it, after he again publically criticised the club for not backing him financially . Much of it was recorded in the threads on TIA before we moved to these pastures. Some of it may be linked to here as well.
It was also commented on by those following Celtic when he left about his behaviour.
Actually, that’s not what I wrote. You made a definitive statement saying Klopp had a much greater say in transfers. I said in response that I don’t think he does. Then I gave an example where he has publicly admitted to relying on the input of the recruitment team. He is on the record a number of times saying that he can’t do everything and he is reliant on the work the recruitment team do - so that isn’t conjecture.
so…you think he wanted to leave because he was playing poorly under Klopp or are you suggesting Klopp initiated the deal?
Not sure what point you are making here - as I mentioned in my previous post, we signed Salah before Coutinho left.
Coutinho had agreed to stay for at least a further season and signed a new contract on a much bigger wage, while hoping to move to Barca the following year. Barca then lost their shit when PSG signed Neymar by paying his buyout clause and in desperation tried to push Liverpool into doing a deal over Coutinho. Liverpool refused because we had already set our plans for the summer. Coutinho then said he had a back injury, while trying to force the club to sell him. In the end Barca bought Dembele from Dortmund instead.
Coutinho went on to score 12 and made 8 assists in 20 games that half season (after having 14 and 9 in 36 the year before). A deal was done with Barca in the January despite both Liverpool and Barca initially wanting to strike a deal to take place in the following summer.
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So, to bring it all back to the start, Rodgers was shit. Personally I don’t think he was gold dust, but had we won the Prem we’d be singing a different tune, and we came so close. The football we played at times was on a par with what we see now. Breathtaking. With the Coutinho cash we got Allison and Van Dyck, which arguably turned our squad into the force it is today. At the end of the day, football is all a matter of opinions. Rodgers was a little unlucky and Klopp a little fortunate. However, I’d take Klopp over Rodgers any day. I think we can agree on that.
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Rodgers did have us playing good football. The league was close! He gets a lot of credit.
On the downside, I didn’t like his hubris. Klopp just seems more comfortable in his own skin. He is of course world class, as a man manager, coach and human being. He is also delighted when other experts come alongside to make the whole thing better. I felt Brendan slightly promoted himself and was too threatened by the expertise of others.
There’s not a lot of need to go deep into all of it. Rodgers did well, he was a manager on the up and making his name, and he just fell slightly short of the title with us.
It looked like it had ran its course for Brendan, and when Klopp became available, it was an easy decision.
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All we have to do is look at both managers signings, one very impressive and one very poor, one is all about the club and the players the other mostly about himself one won us the big trophies the other failed. Chalk and cheese.
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I really don’t see how you come to this conclusion. Rodgers wasn’t unlucky at all, and he was the architect of his own downfall.
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Cameron Brannagan scored 4 Penalties today for Oxford v Gillingham, fucking hell.
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Clips on his 4 penalties. Probably will be taken down later.
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Please explain. I am willing to be persuaded, but thus far I have given facts while you have given opinions
I’m not interested in comparing Klopp with Rodgers. There is no contest. What I take issue with is the vilification of a man who got us playing great football and came within a whisker of winning the prem. That’s all. Why is this such a big deal?
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Christ, I didn’t know I was arguing with an encyclopedia. You seem very anti Rodgers, who as an ex Liverpool manager, deserves a bit more respect in my view. When we were scoring for fun with Suarez,Sturridge and Sterling, I don’t recall people complaining. Ultimately we finished 2 points behind city. Given that we lost 3 pts at home against Chelski and more in a draw with Palace, I can say with some confidence that we were a gnat’s chuff away from winning the prem. If you don’t like this fact then that’s up to you. Just stop giving me a fucking hard time over it and let’s move on.
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Rodgers was unlucky because we lost one of the world’s greatest strikers, who scored a shit load of goals for us, and created loads more. Was that the managers fault?
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What the fuck is this nightmare?
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Doughnuts looks more like Michael Owen BEFORE he lifts up its mask…!! :0)
If we are honest Rodgers was a bit of a chancer, he signed 33 players most should never have been near the club.
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Whatever the opinion of Rodgers as a man or manager he was as close as fuck to winning the PL.
He had a huge chunk of fortune to have Suarez in the side and peak career Gerrard, and but for a few details he would have been a trophy winning manager.
His last season, his decision making, his soundbytes were annoying and poorly thought out, but I was certainly excited when we were so close to winning the league, and certainly disconsolate when it didn’t happen.
Maybe in time he will get more kudos. When Houllier left he was pretty much piled on for a while as well.
His final season was also a poor one after much promise. But in time the good he did for the club was recognised. The cup treble was exciting and was the promise of more to come, but like BR it just never kicked on.
I have a mate and fellow red who hated Rafa’s final years at Liverpool, hated the football and the behaviours.
Personally I think Rafa is a club legend, who a lot more good for the club than harm.
His “rant” was on the money but denigrated by Fergie loving SKY, and he brought a bit of success. But for the owners he might have been up there with the best.
Back to BR, maybe he hugely divides opinion, but he was very close to ending the drought.
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Still think Rodgers biggest crimes were being hired after King Kenny had been sacked and being hired whilst not Rafa. There was a lot that never really forgave him for one or both of them so when we started having some rough times it quickly got toxic and his position became untenable. Thank god as we wouldn’t have Klopp.
His biggest crime was that he was a twat, that, and the fucking terrible defending. He made many, many, poor decisions… It’s done, we’ve moved on.
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