I’ll have a bitter please...It’s the Everton thread (Part 2)

This is a mad precedent to set. Surely opens the door to other teams making similar claims and then where does it end.

The following season Everton survive by 2 points ahead of Leicester but can Leicester now argue Everton benefitted in that season from the breach the previous season? Or that Everton shouldn’t have been there at all? If we’d dropped points against them that season (we didn’t) and then lost the league by a point could we have some form of case against them?

And all of this from five years ago so how far can anyone go back? And how do Everton now account for a £35m hole and does that impact whatever is replacing PSR?

It’s a nonsense that the punishments come so late after the offence and basically impacts an entirely different season. I get the accounts need sorting and that takes time but it makes a mockery of two seasons.

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I wonder if there would have been some sort of indemnity clause in the contract when the owners bought the club with either the previous owners or insurance reimbursing any monies the new owners have to pay out for the previous transgressions?

Haven’t they subsequently closed this gap in auditing/punishment?

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Yep, this really happened every home game…

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Do they still do this at the new stadium? I can remember it happening, but if I was ever at Goodison it was up at the top of that triple deck stand.

Just Googled this… Sounds like the sweets can no longer be thrown into the crowd in case they cause an accident :0)
Typical Everton eh..

Everton mints are no longer thrown into the crowd at the stadium. Due to modern health and safety regulations, the Toffee Lady—who officially returned for this era at the new waterfront Hill Dickinson Stadium—now hands out the mints from a basket rather than hurling them into the stands. [1, 2, 3]

The traditional customs at the club feature:

  • How to get them: The Toffee Lady (and occasional Toffee Girl) walks around the pitchside, greets supporters in the Plaza, and visits the Family Stand before kick-off to hand out the sweets directly. [1]
    The Tradition: The mints are individually wrapped boiled sweets with distinctive black and white stripes and a chewy toffee centre. The sweet-tossing custom dates all the way back to the 1890s and local sweet shop owners like Old Ma Bushell and Mother Noblett.
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It’s not health and safety it’s the fact Pickford couldn’t catch them.

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Ey, Can’t catch for Toffee

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I do remember toffee sweets. I wonder if the boo her as well.

They were actually called Everton Mints. Obviously, I refused to buy them from the shops.

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My grandmother called them wasp mints because of the stripes.

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I never saw them labelled Everton mints, maybe they rebranded them so not to alienate.

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They were called Everton mints and they were made by Barker and Dobson, an Everton-based confectionary company.

Humbug, I hear you all say. Yes, you’re right.

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Yeah but by the time I was a youngun they were marketing them differently.

Also I bet that toffee woman changed several times

I was in Liverpool City centre today and thought I’d go for a pint in the Caernarfon Castle pub. As I’m walking towards the pub, I can see blue and white balloons decorating the outside and a huge Everton flag draped over the front. The place was obviously busy and I could hear Everton songs from inside. I asked someone outside about what was going on. It was obviously too difficult a question for him because I had to ask twice and then he muttered something about “We’re all blues”.
Naturally I didn’t go in for a drink and took my business elsewhere.
I’m just curious about what the hell was going on?
It’s June and there were no games on. It was all bit weird.

Wasn’t the Caernarfon Castle pub one of the favourite watering holes of Howard Kendall although I believe he had a few? Hence its association with the Blues. They sell a Kendall cocktail apparently. I agree with you though that I would feel slightly queasy having a pint in there if it is decorated with Everton memorabilia.

City centre pubs should be strictly neutral. Doesn’t seem like a very sensible business plan to alienate a whole chunk of your potential clientele.:man_facepalming:

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It’s a pub I usually go to for a drink, when I’m in town shopping. It’s convenient and they serve decent beer. There’s a few old EFC related pictures on the walls but nothing that’s likely to wind anyone up. So it was a bit of a surprise yesterday, to see all this going on. There was no way I could go inside, so I ended up at the Mount Vernon on Dale Street.

I don’t know about the Howard Kendall connection, but you could be right. I wish I’d taken a picture or a video now.

They own town since they built their new ground. The city is their’s, or something.
Always pop in there for a pint of Director’s, pretty football- neutral on the whole.

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