Kind of sums them up, their attitudes like this existed when I went to school with some of them in the 90s in Southport.
Funny thing is I remember two lads who I disliked swapping Man Utd for Everton in 1995 due to the cup win and the fact Man Utd won nothing that season.
Seemed a major swift in football at the time. That’s their last trophy isn’t it?
I don’t really like the practice of lining another manager up before sacking your current manager but at least when that happens the club have a plan of what is happening.
So amateurish from Everton in sacking a manager during the January transfer window, allowing players to leave for not having a great relationship with that manager and then… to top it all off seemingly waiting until the transfer window is closed (or nearly closed) before appointing another manager with zero chance of him bringing in his own players.
That underperforming centre forward was “The Golden Vision” though - Alex Young. He was the fans idol but coming to the end of his career. I saw him play many times and he was a feisty Scot like Ian St John.
He was the Golden Vision in the title of an excellent film directed by Ken Loach.
Not sure it led to a mass exodus.
A number of them joined Sounness later on at Rangers didn’t they? - Trevor Steven, Gary Stevens did. I can’t remember if they moved elsewhere first.
A number of their other players were just getting older and the quality of incoming replacements didn’t match the quality of their squad at that time.
What happens when you replace a manager every five minutes.
The way we do business can be annoying for some but I find it refreshing. Not knowing about a signing and then boom. Saves waiting for months for a deal to happen and then you miss out.
Rodgers sacked and Klopp in was I think 3-4 days. Have no doubt we knew he was open to it but it was effective and clean.
I’ve mentioned it several times before but Honigstein believed back in April that year that Klopp and Liverpool were in contact and that had we moved sooner, he would have come in the summer. He was on the football daily podcast and getting cryptic texts from Klopps agent which prompted him to mention it.
Yeah I have no doubt we had spoke to him and I think it was Bascombe or Joyce who posted after our Europa League game that the board had reached its conclusion to change after the Villa game in which Rodgers blamed his tools.
We probably moved that previous week, to make much of the money but every Everton appointment seems to go on for weeks (Rafa’s did) with a board infighting.
The 6 - 1 defeat to stoke probably convinced the owners to actively start talking to Klopp.
And then it was more of a time of trying to let Brendan see out the season. After the results continuing to be disappointing , the owners had to take the call of sacking brendan midseason.
I heard the owners were not too pleased with Bodgers extra marital behaviour behind the scenes… that and his bullshit starting to wear a bit thin spelt the end…
Cheers. He started in the middle but shifted him out wide later on I think. I was heavily watching Sgorio in those days.
To me that was a period where the quality of UK players was properly shown up to be below the level of the Euro leagues. Not many made it stick out there.
Yeah, in terms of players it was really only Trevor Steven and Gary Stevens who explicitly left for the chance to play in the European cup. Linekar had earlier gone to Barca, but I dont think that counts given it was Barca, and they still won the league the following year anyway. But it’s important to remember that Kendall himself left after his second title in 87, and explicitly stated it was because of the European ban.
I got to know Adrian Heath a bit when he was head coach here and spoke to him about it, which was especially insightful seeing as he himself left in 88 as well to go to Spain. His recollection was that the remaining players might not have shared Kendall’s view, but his exit made it feel like the cycle had ended and so players were forced to start thinking about their next opportunity/challenge. That was what opened the door for someone like Souness to come in and poach a couple of players, but also what made him consider moving to Spain to a not particularly good side.
We can debate how much of a real excuse it is for their downslide, but my point was less to justify the argument and more to remind people that the Heysel bitterness was not JUST about being robbed of an opportunity to play in Europe, but a bigger one about how it affected the club. Whether that is justifiable or not is up for debate.
It was Venables who signed him for Barca so knew exactly who he was and what he did. And Gary was a success there during Venables’s time. He was top scorer for them his first two seasons there and it was only after Cruyff came in during his third season that his position changed (think the role Henry played for Pep’s Barca) and his goals dried up a little, but he still played pretty much every game