Nah, for me he’s not, it’s not enough.
Slightly overrated player also because of it, I’d say. Hence why it hasn’t really worked out for him at different places since leaving Southampton (his place) and hasn’t managed to be a regular in England squads when they’ve been a bit short of central midfielders.
Initially started alright for West Ham, but they lost themselves figuring out who plays where in midfield and attack. Lost count how many different combinations they tried.
The point being that West Ham were shit even after he left.
Ward Prowse for his set pieces alone gives them a goal threat.
Brighton picking up the Greek lad, Tzimas. We were loosely linked recently, but it’s a tough one, as even if he is decent, that’s not good enough to get minutes at Liverpool. In all likelihood we will watch him grow at Brighton and then be sold for a large fee in 2-3 years 
Exactly.
We aren’t really discussing pushing out anyone decent.
Looks like Morton to Boro not happening. Surely we can fetch more than 10m for him?
Sounds like the kind to have a worldie of a game so glad we won’t have to face them in the league again.
Albeit he was born in Portsmouth and played for a local youth club in Portsmouth. Bone of contention for some 
Félix to Milan on loan, per Romano.
Same category as Morata. Good, not great, everyone keeps taking a punt.
I’m kind of shocked Marco Asensio is now 29
Best for him might be to actually to back to Southampton, help them go back up next season. They know how to use him (even they tried him in different positions) and tolerate this “worth only due to his set pieces” thing.
I’m shocked he’s not older lol
Was a bit busy yesterday for deadline day (unfortunately, love to follow it), will now post a lot of the deals that went through:
Mohamed Bayo from Lille to Antwerp on loan.
Finn Jeltsch from Nurnberg to Stuttgart for €9.5m.
Mousa Tamari from Montpellier to Rennes for €8m.
Stefan Posch from Bologna to Atalanta on loan, €1m fee, option to buy.
Davide Calabria from Milan to Bologna on loan.
Taichi Fukui from Bayern to Arouca for €1.6m.
Santiago Gimenez from Feyenoord to Milan for €32m.
Evan Ferguson from Brighton to West Ham on loan.
Caleb Wiley from Chelsea to Watford on loan.
Oleksandr Zubkov from Shakhtar to Trabzonspor for €6m.
Nicolas Valentini from Fiorentina to Hellas Verona on loan.
Tidiam Gomis from Caen to RB Leipzig for €1m.
Nicolo Zaniolo from Galatasaray to Fiorentina on loan, €3.2m fee, obligation to buy with conditions for €15m.
Moatasem Al-Musrati from Besiktas to Monaco on loan, €1m fee, option to buy.
Reda Belahyane from Hellas Verona to Lazio for €10m.
Ivan Smolcic from Rijeka to Como for €1.6m.
Shapi Suleymanov from Aris to Kansas City for €2.4m.
Manu Garcia from Aris to Kansas City for €3.6m.
Lucas Daschner from Bochum to St. Gallen on loan.
Marco Sala from Como to Lecce on loan.
Estanis Pedrola from Sampdoria to Bologna on loan, €500k fee, option to buy.
Cher Ndour from PSG to Fiorentina for €5m.
Florinel Coman from Al-Gharafa to Cagliari on loan.
Carles Alena from Getafe to Alaves on loan.
Yorbe Vertessen from Union Berlin to RB Salzburg for €4m.
Andrei Radu from Inter to Venezia on a permanent deal.
Andrea Belotti from Como to Benfica on loan.
Diant Ramaj from Dortmund to Copenhagen on loan.
Amar Dedic from RB Salzburg to Marseille for €1.5m.
Marco Asensio from PSG to Villa on loan.
Daniel Fila from Slavia Prague to Venezia for €4m.
Mergim Vojvoda from Torino to Como for €2.5m.
Lewis O’Brien from Forest to Swansea on loan.
Jean-Philippe Gbamin from Nantes to Zurich on loan.
Carney Chukwuemeka from Chelsea to Dortmund on loan, €2.4m fee, option to buy.
Antonio Candela from Venezia to Real Valladolid on loan.
Cristiano Biraghi from Fiorentina to Torino on loan.
Kelechi Iheanacho from Sevilla to Middlesbrough on loan.
Ivan Jaime from Porto to Valencia on loan.
Bamo Meite from Marseille to Montpellier on loan.
Adam Aznou from Bayern to Real Valladolid on loan.
Lloyd Kelly from Newcastle to Juventus on loan, €3.8m fee, obligation to buy with conditions for €14.5m.
Tyler Bindon from Forest to Reading on loan.
Michy Batshuayi from Galatasaray to Eintracht for €3m.
Juan Bernat from Villarreal to Getafe on a free.
Leo Ostigaard from Rennes to Hoffenheim on loan.
Mirko Maric from Monza to Venezia on loan.
Ayanda Sishuba from Hellas Verona to Rennes for €500k.
Kazeem Olaigbe from Cercle Brugge to Rennes for €5.2m.
Tawanda Chirewa from Wolves to Huddersfield on loan.
Mateo Pellegrino from Velez Sarsfield to Parma for €2m.
Ryan Alebiosu from Kortrijk to St. Mirren on loan.
Heriberto Jurado from Nexaca to Cercle Brugge for €1.6m.
Harrison Armstrong from Everton to Derby on loan.
Alex Palmer from WBA to Ipswich for €2.4m.
Nidal Celik from Sarajevo to Lens for €2.5m.
Victor Nelsson from Galatasaray to Roma on loan, €500k fee, option to buy for €10m + €2m.
Bruma from Braga to Benfica for €6.5m.
Biel from Bahia to Sporting Lisbon for €6m.
Ramon Terrats from Villarreal to Getafe on loan.
Anastasios Douvikas from Celta to Como for €13m.
Jaydon Banel from Ajax to Burnley for €1m.
Amine Salama from Reims to Torino on loan, €200k fee, option to buy.
Tobias Slotsager from Odense to Hellas Verona for €1m.
Oday Dabbagh from Charleroi to Aberdeen on loan.
Rob Holding from Palace to Sheffield United on loan.
Tayo Adaramola from Palace to Bradford on loan.
Florian Grillitsch from Hoffenheim to Real Valladolid on loan.
Maeshack Elia from Young Boys to Nantes on loan.
Ivan Azon from Zaragoza to Como for €2m.
Noah Okafor from Milan to Napoli on loan, €1.5m fee, option to buy.
Ismael Kone from Marseille to Rennes on loan, €1m fee.
Ismael Bennacer from Milan to Marseille on loan, €1m fee, option to buy.
Eli Junior Kroupi from Lorient to Bournemouth for €12m, but will remain on loan until the end of the season.
Gavin Bazunu from Southampton to Standard Liege on loan.
Jordan Siebatcheu from Union Berlin to Reims for €4.5m.
Dani Silva from Hellas Verona to Midtjylland for €3.5m.
Warren Bondo from Monza to Milan for €10m.
Riccardo Sottil from Fiorentina to Milan on loan, €1m fee, option to buy.
Kevin Zeroli from Milan to Monza on loan.
Nico Gonzalez from Porto to City for €60m.
Cucho Hernandez from Columbus to Betis for €13m.
Mathys Tel from Bayern to Tottenham on loan, option to buy.
Joao Felix from Chelsea to Milan on loan, €5.5m fee.
Jeffrey Schlupp from Palace to Celtic on loan.
Anass Salah-Eddine from Twente to Roma for €8m.
Ben Chilwell from Chelsea to Palace on loan.
Nicolo Fagioli from Juventus to Fiorentina on loan, €2.5m fee, obligation to buy with conditions for €13m + €3m.
Benjamin Tahirovic from Ajax to Brondby for €2.7m.
Antoine Bernede from Lausanne to Hellas Verona on loan.
Lucas Gourna-Douath from RB Salzburg to Roma on loan, obligation to buy with conditions for €18m.
Romelle Donovan from Birmingham to Brentford on loan.
Dexter Lembikisa from Wolves to Barnsley on loan.
Samuel Dahl from Roma to Benfica on loan, €600k fee, option to buy.
Emmanuel Dennis from Forest to Blackburn on loan.
Mory Gbane from Gil Vicente to Reims for €5m.
Nasser Djiga from Red Star Belgrade to Wolves for €12m.
Carlos Alcaraz from Flamengo to Everton on loan.
Marshall Munetsi from Reims to Wolves for €18m.
Jacob Wright from City to Norwich on loan.
Axel Disasi from Chelsea to Villa on loan, €6m fee.
Joel Ndala from City to Forest on loan.
City spend €220m and not one of those 4 players would improve us and I doubt City either. Panic buying at its finest.
Gavin “better than Kelleher” Bazunu? What happened there?
City’s big failure, along with Iheanacho, who’s now in the Championship.
Anyone move in that whole window that you think “damn, I wish Liverpool had got him.”
I can only think of Marmoush and even then I’d rather keep Mo for another couple years.
Lots of moves but a distinct lack of quality players going anywhere this window.
Isn’t that usually the case? It’s just like how people keep expecting us to have a lot of activity and turnover, but in reality, windows like summer 2023 have been by far the exception rather than the norm since summer 2018. it leads to a puzzling state of affairs (to me) where people don’t seem to recognise that we largely do our business on a slow and steady basis, and that we’ve genuinely refreshed much of the squad since 2020 without people realising. From that title winning team, we really only have Alisson, van Dijk, Robertson, and Salah as key players who weren’t considered young players then.
Depends how much we know as fans, I for one don’t know much if anything about a lot of the ones that are moving. Doesn’t mean they’re not good.
Perhaps more and more football clubs are a bit more creative where they look for players, go a step or two earlier in getting them.
Especially since there’s room to carry a lot of players and just loaned them out, etc.
There’s always some sort of activity in January, albeit it’s not the main transfer window.
You have your usual struggling sides who are trying to do different things to give them a better chance of survival, sides with injuries, sides looking for opportunistic buys, transfers that haven’t gone through last summer or would’ve gone through next summer, etc.
Selling clubs already know more or less what kind of season they’re having, for some their European season might be over, then willing to do business now, in order to prepare their summer, etc.
A transfer window doesn’t need a Neymar from Barca to PSG calibre to be interesting, when you look a bit deeper into it (even if I wouldn’t mind if they scrapped the January transfer window).
