Perfect move would be us and I’m not just saying that.
Yeah, I don’t remember people talking about him being a leader. I don’t see much of a genuine comparison between Jude and Dele.
Dele was a gifted twat that was warned by Jose about regret, and then didn’t take his advice. Spurs have a habit of taking flawed footballers and fucking up their lives.
I think Alli thought he had made it. I don’t know if Bellingham has that trait if he goes to City or Madrid then of course he has, comes here then not 
Alli is a far more limited player than jude is and came to people’s attention after scoring a run of goals for his club and his manager started talking him up (rightly) Jude has been followed by Us and probably other clubs since he was about 8 years old.
You blokes think about me wanking WAY too much…
Dele Alli still only 26 - crazy.
Not sure if the two can be compared.
I’ve found out about Alli two years before he signed for Spurs and his numbers at Dons were phenomenal. Playing in midfield as a kid against grown men he scored many goals and assisted too.
His years under Pochettino were also pretty good. Then he suffered from changing mangers just like Rashford, Sancho and Mount for example.
Dele Alli would have turned out better had he signed for us. He would have had lots of years under Klopp, and he would have kicked on further than in his early years, when he looked so good. Impossible to prove, but it is what I genuinely think.
Klopp is world class in the game and away from the game. In an age of celebrity and riches, we have someone leading the club who transcends that.
For anyone who is talented enough to fall under his gaze, they should give their all to play for this man.
I think Bellingham gets that.
They were but he began to tail off under Pochettino. Part of that may have been because Kane started dropping deeper into those pockets Alli used to find himself in.
I think outside activities took his mind away from the game… no coming back after that happens
Not sure how Alli could end up at Everton and in Turkey.
Have the feeling there is some kind of secret he was able to hide until now. Something like drugs, gambling or another incident.
I completely forgot about that, I was wondering why so many here were talking like his career was over.
He’d played his entire professional life under just 2 coaches both of whom had reputations for being players’ coaches. He then found himself playing under Jose, a man who sucks all the joy out of football and who might have been predicted to be dubious of a player like Dele who had thrived in a relatively free attacking role. Dele’s combination of being high profile and not a fit for the football Jose wanted to play earmarked him as the most likely player for Jose to use the sacrificial lamb he has so often used to lay down his authority at a new club.
That doesnt explain why he never got back on rack after leaving Spurs, but part of that is the clubs he went to. But part is that success in football is a lot more capricious than most imagine. Why could Tot Schilatchi be a world beater for one month and then a normal dude the rest of his career? What you see more often than not is when something first goes wrong for a once good player they struggle to recreate the circumstances that allowed the thrive and even after moving just never get their mojo back.
Dele Alli lost his passion for the game, honestly don’t believe his heart has been in it ever since that whole All or Nothing documentary came out and I think there was a break in where the thugs attacked him which can do all sorts of damage to a players well-being which I’m sure wouldv’e played a part.
It’s a shame because he did have the world at his feet.
But how come people are forgetting a certain Jadon Sancho? Jadon Sancho was the Jude Bellingham of last year.
I have a different opinion on this. Alli, is a very technically gifted player. He strangely fell out of favour with Spurs - this after being part of a successful attacking three with Kane and Son - Strangely under the management of Mourinho.
Any successful person, whether it be sport or business, needs to have drive, resilience and the screw you mentality (the later does not need to be in an aggressive manner) and this is where Alli has fallen short.
Just out of interest and I ask this in good faith, how do you know we and other clubs have followed Jude since the age of 8?
Thank you for that 
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So, we identified Bellingham as a serious talent at the age of 9 and were willing to pay £9k as compensation. Yet, when Dortmund were wiling to pay £25m upfront we were no where to be seen.
Jase, my response is not directed to you. @redfanman (whose point of view I respect) and I have had discussions about the reasoning of signing Bellingham earlier 
That isn’t quite true. We were looking to sign him that summer but either we wouldn’t/ couldn’t match Dortmund’s offer (I think we were looking to offer £10-15m?) or accepted the player wanted to move to Dortmund over us at that particular time.
I live in Birmingham, and a lot of my mates are Blue noses. I cannot recall any attempt from us to sign Bellingham. If there was an attempt then we fell short of what we could offer. If we had identified him as a special talent at the age of 9 and then Dortmund were willing to spend £25m on him as a 17 year old we should have been more committed to this transfer. As it is we are forking out an extra £100m.
Dortmund deserve a lot of the credit here for seeing the potential in Jude (like they did Jadon) and coaching that talent out of him, giving him the opportunities to shine on the big stage.
There really is no telling whether Jude would be the player he is today had Dortmund not come in.
Maybe if we send more of our youngsters to clubs like Dortmund, we’d have a better chance of winning major tournaments…maybe.