La Liga discussion

Haven’t they stopped it after this?

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And then Trent took a quick corner and Origi smashed in number 4. Sob sob.

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It is a long time to keep thinking about that TAA corner Lionel…
Get over it will ya and just move on! :rofl:

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I don’t think he actually recovered from Robertson ruffling his hairs. :smirk:

I don’t care about where Messi goes and whether Barcelona goes bankrupt but I think its quite ridiculous to suggest that Messi should have offered to play for free if he loves Barca so much. For him to accept a 50% paycut when he has no need to honestly, he can go to PSG and still earn a hell ton of money, so obviously, I think his love for Barca cannot be disputed. Our players also said they love Liverpool very much, I have not seen us demanding they play for free for a season so we can buy Mbappe.

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They were in the shit even before covid. La liga allowed them to register griezmann. And then this is them taking revenge for barca and the super league.

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Few years ago when Lá Liga TV came into being they shifted the money a bit that clubs got ever since then it seems the big two have had to shift their financies ever since.

I’ve not massively looked into it but it doesn’t surprise me that this super league came into being not a few years after it. One thing I will say is I look at the mess these two massive clubs are in and I think we should and any other club in Europe should avoid a Spanish big two led super league at all costs as frankly they can’t lead their own clubs.

Not against the reform of football but by just moving the money around isn’t going solve a single issue.

Whole lot are corrupt

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The thing is, Messi could have taken a 70-75% payout and he would have still been earning in 1 week what most people would struggle to earn in 10 years. And he would have still been one of the highest paid players in the world.

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Maybe he would if he could. But he couldn’t. Apparently, Spanish law prevents a player from taking more than a 50% pay cut from one contract to another.

Not just La Liga rules, by the way. National working rights rules.

This was news to me as well. I haven’t checked this myself, so don’t ask me any specifics :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: Just heard it on a podcast.

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Didn’t know that.

That would explain that then.

Except that Messi was out of contract so I doubt any such rule, if it exists, could apply because Messi wouldn’t actually be taking a pay cut but would instead be no longer unemployed.

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There’s still three weeks to go before the transfer window closes and a lot can happen during that time. But as things stand; how will the competitiveness of Spanish League shape up?

Suarez carried Atletico, almost single-handedly, to the title last season. Without him Atletico has and will struggle for goals. Rodrigo De Paul could be a good signing but he is probably the replacement for Saúl Ñíguez.

The other Madrid club has lost their longtime defensive lynchpin Sergio Ramos but David Alaba should prove to be an adequate replacement. They have struggled for goals last season and there’s no reason to feel optimistic about certain Hazard or Bale either.

Barcelona will miss Messi’s goals and assists, combining to almost half of their league goals last season. But Eric García and Emerson Royal are likely to improve their defense which caused lots of dropped points, specially at the later stages of last season.

@Kopstar Could be, I don’t know. Isn’t he still moving from one contract to another though, even if there’s a break between…? No idea about the technicalities, that’s your table, so I’m not going to argue :grimacing:

They mentioned a couple of examples (Isaac Cuenca and Alvaro Medran) where La Liga didn’t approve a contract because it exceeded the 50% rule. Both were cases of clubs with poor finances where the players had agreed to play for pennies. But of course now is the first time most people hear about it, because it’s in the context of a high profile player. They didn’t specify whether the mentioned players were bought or already out of contract.

More specific on the rule: they said it was a rule/proposal that La Liga, together with other big Spanish companies, pushed to get approved in Spanish law.

How to fck up a well run club in a decade 101.

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I found this re Cuenca

It seems that La Liga didn’t approve the registration of Cuenca because they simply didn’t believe that he would have agreed to play for the minimum wage payable to a second division player. No mention of it to do with any 50% rule.

In my brief search I couldn’t find anything about Medran relating to wages.

Bale is still a good player, fitness has usually been the problem with him, but he should be available for a decent number of games this season and with the new manager in charge will effectively have a fresh start there after the previous manager/club tried to push him out. Hazard is also still a good player, but his problem is less fitness and more attitude which is in someways harder to overcome.

In the short term Real Madrid should be better off than Barca, but with the youth coming through still at Barca, they could bounce back quite fast if they can resolve these financial issues quickly

And they still wouldnt have been able to register him to play

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One thing not mentioned within the Messi debacle is this…
If Barca actually wanted to get rid of Messi, for whatever reason, how would that have been possible without the crowd and worldwide Barca fans turning against the board…
The way of his exit now, La Liga are the culprits and the fans don’t have a reason to give the club a hard time about it… Maybe Barca are paving the way to have their house in order within 12months, in readiness to sign the next idol… MBAPPE.! :flushed:

I think letting Messi leave was a no brainer for Barca,the financial state of the club is fucked and by trying to get him to re-sign would have dug them into a deeper financial hole.Ok he’s not just any old player but at 34 years old,you can’t pin your clubs future on an aging player.

I just watched an interview with a guy called Pete Jensen and for Barca to keep Messi,La Liga threw them a deal,not only do Barca need to sell players and get exsisting players to lower their wages,they’d have to accept a deal where they’d have to give up 10% of their tv revenue for the next 40-50 years,which Laporta wasn’t willing to do.

Given Messi’s apparently genuine heartbreak at having to leave Barcelona can we now assume that all that threat to leave last year was just posturing? It seems like Messi attempted to, not for the first time, get Barcelona to give him a stonking new deal or he was off.

He even allowed it to play out to the extent he became a free agent and, thus, no longer registered as a Barcelona player. Did Messi and Barcelona simply not appreciate the repercussions of allowing his registration to lapse? It seems to me that Barcelona and Messi would not be in the position they now find themselves if only they had agreed to extend his contract before it ran out. If there is this 50% rule then I can see it applying in those circumstances so perhaps this was the insurmountable obstacle?

Frankly, Barcelona is such a wretched club that I have little sympathy and the knowledge that selling them Coutinho has played a big part in their current predicament is undeniably satisfying.

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