Liverpool FC - Pre-season (Part 2)

Arsenal won their first two andl lost their last two pre season games so even the bestest team in history aren’t doing well.

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It can be any team in the top five euro leagues including Austria and it’s been reported several clubs have already expressed interest even if they would only be getting him for 6 months.
Would be good experience for Ndukwe and then we get some good cover. Jacquet and Leoni would be backtoo.

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Surely the Austrian league isn’t one of the top 5 in Europe?

Would have thought (excluding England) it would be something like Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal/Holland?

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It may be more than the top 5 then because I saw Austrian league qualifies.. time to call in some favours maybe

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Only thing that disappointed me was we didn´t get to see Nyoni play with Grav, Jones or Mac. I want to see how he pairs with each of them not just with Szobo.

Otherwise nothing we didn´t know about our players and plenty of positives first half.

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Didn’t they play in the Austrian 2nd Division which does not qualify. Anyway, the Austrian league is definitely not in the top 5.

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Austrian top division is in band 4 based on the information from the official Premier League guidebook:

Band 1 means the English Premier League, the Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1.

Band 1 Continental Competition means the UEFA Champions League and the Copa
Libertadores.

Band 2 means the Portuguese Primeira Liga, Eredivisie, Belgian First Division A, the
Turkish Super Lig and the English Championship.

Band 2 Continental Competition means the UEFA Europa League, UEFA Conference
League and the Copa Sudamerica.

Band 3 means the USA’s Major League Soccer, Campeonato Brasileiro Série A, Primera División of Argentina, Liga MX and the Scottish Premiership.

Band 3 Continental Competition means any continental competition which is not a
Band 1 Continental Competition or Band 2 Continental Competition.

Band 4 means the Czech First League, Croatian First Football League, the Swiss Super League, La Liga 2, Bundesliga 2, Ukrainian Premier League, the Greek Superleague, the Colombian Categoría Primera A, the Austrian Football Bundesliga, the Danish Superliga, Russian Premier League and Ligue 2.

Band 5 means the Serbian SuperLiga, the Polish Ekstraklasa, the Slovenian PrvaLiga,
the Chilean Primera División, the Uruguayan Primera División, the Swedish Allsvenken
division, the Norwegian Elitserien division, the Italian Serie B, the Hungarian Namzeti
Bajnoksag I, the Japanese J1 League, the South Korean K League 1 and the Australian
A-League.

Band 6 means all leagues not in Band 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5.

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The first half was impressive for a pre season game, every player seems ready to go. The 2nd half not so. So plenty to work on, consistency, players to keep or to go, fitness etc

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Is Ndukwe definitely not getting a work permit or we are still appealing?

I would say a loan to a top league might do him good. I am not sure he will get alot of games compared to be on loan once Jacquet and Leoni comes back - although Andoni has shown in Bournemouth he is not afraid to play young players.

the French league is a farners league, don’t you know! :wink:

Also…Id stop the Jota applause now. Hes gone and not forgotten but we don’t need it every game now. We need to move on and let him rest in peace.

It cant be good for the players either.

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yep, theres a point in time when it just becomes a bit too performative ( the wreath laying etc)

im not entirely sure that time has past, but yeah, we dont want it to become meaningless…

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Where has this “one game” element come from as others are reporting he’d need to play a significant amount of games before a January return would be possible.

Surely a single game isn’t the difference between getting a work permit or not.

Rab, meet Bureaucracy,

Bureaucracy, meet Rab, can you explain to Rab the role you play?

Just repeating what the club said in post match analysis on telly. If he gets a top flight loan and plays one game in league or European cup that qualifies him for a permit so he can return in Jan

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Can’t he get a loan before our season starts in a league that qualifies and starts before the transfer season ends, plays 1 game then comes back to us?

Sounds a cunning plan, probably not possible but you can’t knock a tryer.

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I felt the same when saw the crowd applauding on the 20th minute.

It is time to stop that and to move on, but it would take a brave person from the club to ask the fans to not do it anymore.

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The whole Ndukwe fiasco stinks of bad planning. Why are you bringing in a player and playing him in preseason when you can’t use him in regular season? Have we arranged a suitable loan for him so that he can make it back for sure next season?

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The club should have been more proactive in securing homegrown talents on top of international ones. Let’s not forget the Guehi debacle.

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Unfortunately there are a lot of teams in England with money that also need home grown players and a limited number of the required quality so it gets very expensive.

It also got harder to bring in young players from other countries early enough to qualify as home grown with the work permit rule changes.

The club do seem to have acknowledged the issue and put more priority recently into recruiting young prospects from other academies and securing those already there by going beyond previous wage structures but it will take time to pay off.

This approach seemed to pick up after the owners weren’t able to find suitable options for a multi club group like City or Red Bull clubs to provide player development pathways and playing time in leagues that would qualify for the necessary points to get a work permit.

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