I dont like the taste but also cucumber gives me heartburn.
@Noo_Noo I love Marzipan. Re Breakfast - i still feel its the most important meal of the day. If you dont have breakfast I find you start picking. Even if something small you should have it as it gives the body energy and fuel after being shut down for a few hours during sleep.
It does but there’s growing evidence on the benefits of intermittent fasting, which I’m back trying now.
I might move a little towards this over the next few days.
Marzipan is evil. It sneaks up on you. Wonderful cakes ruined by plastering it with this stuff.
I was told the first thing to do if you want to lose weight, is begin by cutting back on sugar intake.
The likes of biscuits, cakes, sweets, certain cereals, hot chocolate drinks and anything else that contains a high sugar ratio content. The reason being, apparently, is because sugar in a diet becomes addictive, and what most perceive to be hunger pains and the need to eat, are actually, addictive sugar cravings.
If the sugar is cut back, then within a fortnight or so, weight starts to drop as there is not as much desperation to keep feeding oneself when the once previous urgings of hunger subside…!
Told myself that if I ever lose my ‘Snake Hips’ this will be the first thing I am going to try 
100%. The stuff is absolutely wonderful but plays havoc with our bodies over the long run.
I’m trying really hard to cut back on sugar intake and doing ok so far. No doubt there will be a slip here and there but hopefully looking to make sure that those stay as slips rather than the norm.
Plays havoc, specifically with ones liver and kidney’s also as they are both filters…!
Is the rules of a diet not similar to learning to play a guitar, or becoming a ballroom dancing expert… In such that a little bit of progress at each juncture of effort over a period of time, helps to achieve the eventual target… Bin the biscuits this week/month, add cakes next week/month, and so on and so forth… as you would condition your fingers to the guitar strings, or your balance in dancing, the body will adapt to any conditions if enough time and effort has been applied.
Being disappointed if immediate results are not forthcoming would sort of go against a well thought out plan… over a given realistic timeline… Maybe…!
@Noo_Noo when I wasn’t diabetic I used to fast now and again. As I mentionned before I used grape juice (diluted as otherwise it’s far too sugary). 3 days seemed best for me. I tried 5 days and felt really awful after and those extra 2 days were hell.
Fasting is really a ‘blood’ or body cleaning exercise however after you tend to eat a lot less at each meal.
Note any really healthy lifestyle will see you gain wieght unless you are very fat. At the start of any health improvement ‘scheme’ if you are really overweight I think there is fast weight loss. The trouble comes when even remaining on the healthy lifestyle the weight doesn’t drop often for long periods after the initial loss. This causes questioning of the utility of what your doing. This is when many loose interest and fall back to old habits.
As for fasting it can do a lot of good but also if done too often or incorrectly a lot of harm. If you push it too much it could lead to your body saying fuck this I need more fat to get over these traumas so has the opposite effect to what you want. So do research this the length of time to fast and how often once every 3 months? is it advisable in the winter? (I fasted 3 days once a year in the spring).
Ramadam is the most studied fast and the research gives very contrasting results depending who funded the reseach and from which country the research was led. Of course it’s not a real fast imo and many deprive themselves of liquid intake during the day which can be fatal.
Yeah, agreed. There is likely to be plateau’s unless you push things to real extremes.
I feel I need to literally kick start something both physically and mentally. I’m in a proper rut and I need to dig myself out. I’m embarrassed by my weight at the moment. So if I can get things moving in the right direction it will give me a platform to build off and get back into some level of fitness and shape.
Today has been sub 1200 calories which I’m happy with. After just 3-4 days I dont think I’ve lost anything as such but I certainly feel a lot less bloated
Sometimes fitting into an old pair of jeans that once held a danger to anybody standing directly in-front of a risky ‘pinging-off’ button buckle just a few weeks earlier, is confirmation that things are moving in the right direction, even if the weigh scales don’t seem to be budging much…
Liquid intake at certain times of the day can bring a yo-yo impact and play havoc with ones weight readings, sometimes by as much as 2-3kg… Another example, is if we take the case of non-liquid consumption for up to 24-36hrs… still need to continue peeing in that period, with weight reduction after each splash…!
Main thing required for a successful diet… plenty of patience.
Just weighed myself and since starting work I’ve lost 3 kg, I know it’s just water retention. It’s the 40 minutes walk/exercise I do on my nights off that’s responsible (and lots less sitting in a comfy arm chair or desk chair). I’m glad to have got rid of it but wasn’t looking to lose wieght. 70Kg for 1m 86cm.
I never, ever weigh myself
Weight is no indication of fitness.
You know when you are carrying excess pounds, you can see and feel it.
The BMI for instance is a ridiculous measure of health. Divide your weight by your height ? Really ? Is that really a scientific rationale to recognise if someone is over or under weight? How about dividing leg length by circumference of head? That measurement would be just as useful.
According to the BMI Duane “The Rock” Johnson is clinically obese. He is not. Usain Bolt has a BMI that places him just slightly under the BMI index of Overweight. He is not. Jonah Lomu the NZ rugby player according to his BMI was obese. He could run 100m in 10.7 seconds.
BMI does not take into account age, sex, race, body composition, where the fat is distributed etc etc. The only thing it may be useful for is illustrating trends in population. Even that is questionable.
You know when you are overweight - so there are two steps to take. Initially stop gaining weight and then find the method that works for you in losing your excess pounds. We now know what definitively does not work, low fat - high carb, so experiment and find what works for you.
Yeah BMI is very old fashioned and been a measure of “health” for an eternity. But it is still a guide for obesity and used in insurance assessments. But to be fair, they also add waist measurements into the mix for those super fit “obese” people.
I was listening to a presentation yesterday on health stats such as obesity and mental health and its frightening. I will try and obtain and share on here. But maybe the obesity stats are inflated if BMI is the guide.
I knew when I put on weight this year as all my clothes get tight and my face looked bloated.
I didn’t need scales to tell me that. I felt and looked awful.
As soon as I started eating more protein and walking 45-60 mins a day after work my face went back to normal and most of my clothes fit again. There’s the odd top that’s a bit snug but they were before due to me going through a stage of buying mediums when I’m a large.
A massive hero of mine. This guy was playing international rugby while on dialysis. That beggars belief. And very few people outside the All Blacks circle actually knew about it.
When he did receive a kidney transplant they tucked it way down inside his pelvis to try and protect it. Sadly that first kidney didn’t stick very long and was waiting for a second when he passed away.
Worth noting that while this might be slightly off topic there’s some suggestion that creatine supplements were the cause of his kidney problems. Another root cause of kidney problems that no one speaks about is diabetes. More reason to shed those pounds.
100% agree on the ineffectiveness of BMI as a diagnostic tool.
It is outdated, innefective and causes distress to many people.
BMI is a screening tool. A screening tool is a first line clinical evaluation of someone’s risk that is used to identify individuals who require further evaluation in determining whether treatment is needed. BMI works exceptionally well at this. If you have a clinician who treats you solely on the basis of your BMI when there is no further indication for treatment then that’s a problem with your clinician, not with BMI.
It gets a little more complicated when you start thinking of obesity as a disease in an of itself rather than simply a risk factor for cardiometabolic disease, but even that discussion has settled on the idea that characteristics of metabolic dysfunction should be identified before it is treated as such.
Are we using Jonah Lomu and the Rock as examples of perfect health?
“Yes Usain, as your Doctor, I would say you are in perfect health - but you need to watch your weight, your BMI is just about indicating that you are overweight.”
I used to know a veteran triathlete. He won a major event in Scotland and was on the cover of a triathlon magazine. His new family Dr told him, that week, that his BMI was high and he should lose weight. He left the magazine on her desk.
Insurance companies use the BMI measurement as a ,means to adjust premiums. The “ideal” BMI measurement was lowered in the 1990’s.
Overweight and obese people pay on average 25% more for health and life insurance.
"In 1998, the National Institutes of Health lowered the overweight threshold from 27.8 to 25—branding roughly 29 million Americans as fat overnight
Show me the money.
The BMI measurement is a bloody scam, it has no basis in science and is a useless, outmoded and inaccurate tool. A more reliable indicator of metabolic health is the circumference of your waist relative to that of your hips. The US armed forces for instance no longer use BMI as an indicator of fitness. The BMI measurement should be consigned to the dustbin of failed medical thinking.
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No - we are using them purely as examples of why the BMI measurement is flawed.
And how does it do that? Do you think the Rock’s size (and how he got there) is in any way healthy? Because it isn’t.
