Losing the midriff "wobble" or the TAN diet/exercise thread

Look at the links if interested.

It’s a diet that lacks Vitamine A and B12, but you won’t get a deficiency in a month.

You don’t need to peel most veg, a good wash will do. You’re cooking it anyway. You can buy chopping devices, think a sharp tennis racket with a hinge and a capture basket. Job’s a good un :slight_smile:

https://www.google.co.uk/shopping/product/896550597359651832?q=vegetable+chopper&client=safari&hl=en-gb&biw=504&bih=875&tbs=vw:l&prmd=svin&sxsrf=ALiCzsbYULNvPfJ9iuQo0Gneu3BZM6atng:1657104147909&prds=eto:16329537881949833204_0,cdl:1,prmr:1,rsk:PC_6337401802296255303,cs:1

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FFs we used to own one of those i am sure! and a tennis racket too! can’t believe i had no recollection of that device until you posted it :joy:

cheers pal! hahaha i feel like such a clown now for forgetting those existed.

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Cooking requires time. But a lot of it can be simplified to foods which are easy to prep and then easy to cook.

For example, a easy vegetarian curry (bhaji for instance) involves boiling vegetables like potatoes/carrots/beans/peas together(Doing those in a microwave works with some water) and then peeling them and mashing them.

Fry up some chopped onions (Can find onion dicers for that), add the mashed vegetables and then fry some more , add the pav bhaji masala (readily available in most indian stores) and then let it cook till the water disappears… (about 20 minutes , just covering the pan).

That’s your basic veg curry done. Have it either with Roti or with toasted dinner rolls. And the best part is that this curry can last you for atleast 2-3 meals.

Cooking isn’t tough , you just need to spare about 1-2 hrs in a weekend to prep/plan your dishes for most of the week and youtube etc do help in providing quicker fixes.

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This is something i use for chopping up onions , lettuce , cabbage , beetroot , carrot , potatoes. Easy enough that a kid can use and very less chance of injuries happening. And affordable as fuck too. I think there are some electric versions using the same principle of a rotary chopper.

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And similar for chicken/fish/meat, Just marinate the chicken before hand and then keep them in the convection oven. With so much help available online w.rt youtube , it becomes really easy, And any marinate which has a souring agent and salt there helps the meat remain for 4-5 days in a normal chiller. You really don’t even need to use a freezer as well (as long as they’re packed in air tight bags)

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thank you once again! most helpful! both yourself and @Klopptimist are providing excellent information. for some it might seem like simple things but they just don’t come to the front of my mind and the two of you are making me think "of course! obviously " :upside_down_face: when i see the suggestions. cheers lads <3

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Define “healthy.” It’s almost completely lacking in protein, and adequate protein intake is one of the most important things to lock down in a weight loss diet. However, lacking protein isnt going to stop you losing weight. So what you’re left with is defining what you mean by “healthy.”

The benefits of even small amounts of weight loss are substantial for people who have excess weight to lose. Some aspects of a normally unhealthy diet can be worth it in the trade off with achieving those improvements in blood pressure and insulin sensitivity. Artificially restrictive diets like this almost always produce clinically significant weight loss when followed and so the trade off is worth considering.

The real issue with short cut type approaches like this is sustainability. These diets are not meant to be done in the long term, and the longer the do them the less the trade off is beneficial. So what happens when you go off this diet? There are a lot of different reasons why someone may have struggled to follow a healthy, calorie balanced diet, and success in managing a healthy weight (or even just healthier weight) is going be based on your ability to identify your individual obstacles and developing approaches that address them. That can include basic nutritional education, developing cooking skills, changing your food environment (e.g. make sure there aren’t biscuits and crisps in the house), dropping friends who sabotage your goals, understanding your emotional connections with certain foods or any number of other things. The issue with these fad type diets is that they don’t do any of this and so leave you completely unprepared for how to manage once you stop them. And that is the problem with the diet industry, not that it fails to help people lose weight, but they don’t give people the tools to actually deal with the obstacles that caused them to need to lose weight in the first place. Hence the common yo-yoing.

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This talk reminds me of me needing to start dieting. With the rains and wifey going out of station , I’m having to prep for the kid school times and all… leaving me no time for exercise. Bought a couple of pair of shoes and didn’t get too much of a chance to run in them,

Found this guy a while ago. I don’t try his recipes as he does but I like his style and some of his tips are excellent, plus he’s just good fun:

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Exactly that for starters. It doesn’t give your body the full range of nutrients it needs to work over the long term. Sailors proved stuff like with scurvy etc.

Otherwise I’m 100% with you. I’m already on a restricted diet. I’d rather not restrict it further but whatever I do it needs to be sustainable. I’m fully aware that my current mental strength is not cutting it.

In other news I decided to go for another run this evening on my post work baseline course. Legs hurt now but it’s my quads from not being used to running, yes I’m back a square -1. But the hip held up well and without pushing myself I managed to break 29 minutes for the 2.7 miles or so. Twisting is my issue so I’m really concentrating on maintaining good straight form.

Rest day tomorrow.

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I am daring to post a YouTube video.

Penn on the potato diet that he followed.

He has some interesting observations.

https://youtu.be/NelIXCuuSZ0

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There’s obviously multiple version of this potato diet, some allowing for eating 2/3 days per week normally (see https://www.amazon.com/Potato-Hack-Weight-Loss-Simplified/dp/1530028620, I haven’t read it though!)

I don’t believe this diet will work for everybody, there’s no silver bullet diet as humans have different physiologies.

That being said, what’s nice is so far I haven’t been craving anything else or felt hungry(that was one selling point for this method). Apart from the first afternoon when I didn’t eat enough potatoes.^^"

Even if I don’t lose much weight, I won’t mind, I find the idea funny and, for science! :slightly_smiling_face:

I’m fascinated even if I know deep down it’s probably a non starter. Potato’s are quite high in potassium which as a person with kidney issues I have watch how much of that I eat.

That said, since dropping meat my levels have been far easier to manage.

Focusing on the potato is exactly the wrong message to take from Penn’s story. In his story it is just a place holder…a McGuffin. He is not trying to convey any sort of the valuable property of the potato, but telling a story about the importance of how we think about food and how important our patterns/habits are. His story is about how he used an extreme approach (because he hates moderation) to short-circuit his established unhealthy patterns.

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Not seen the video yet but your explanation sounds correct in what extreme diets do. They break habits. I have habits that need breaking.

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I am trying to control hunger pangs.

I realise just being hungry doesn’t mean need to eat. But they seem to be more frequent now that I’ve put on weight.

Also my mind will use any excuse to make it easy for me to eat badly and move my “day 1” to the next day.

“Hurt your knee? Eat what you like and wait until you heal”

“Didn’t get up early enough for a morning gym session, chalk this day off and start again tomorrow”

And on and on.

I think we’ve all been there.

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I’m gonna give this potato hack diet a run

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