Mikey’s Millions 2024

Maybe, but the fees are almost as insane as usual when a deal is struck.

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We don’t know the payment terms for most of them though. We’re apparently collecting payment on at least two deals a year after the move takes place for example, and the fees we are getting appear to be at the lower end the club was aiming for. Some of the gross figures being reported on deals you are reading about may be inflated by the payments being spread over longer periods or by add ons. Or they are just extreme examples i,e Utd are still a wealthy club that generates a lot of money through a variety of sources so Covid will not have hit them as hard as other PL clubs.

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Clubs like United, PSG etc. are paying insane fees as if COVID haven’t have any impact on their finances. Because, it hasn’t. But if you look at other/normal clubs, the fees are rather sober. I was very shocked when Villa payed a rather astronomical fee for that Norwich player, but in retrospect, they have spent only a part of what they think in the pipeline from the sale of one of their players.

Also, as @redfanman have mentioned, not only the fees are at the lower end (of our expectations) but they are also spread thinner than usual. I think the £30+mil we have generated is worth £25mil if you consider the time value of money.

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I was going to add that manure have significant cash reserves - which they did before last season.

Their latest accounts show that cash and cash equivalents fell from £307.5 million at the start of 2019-20 season, to £50.3 million at its end. The decrease includes £220 million expenditure on players and £44.5 million in owners dividends!

I cannot see how their cash position can have improved much since then.

So any player purchases this season with either have to be on extended terms or they will have to further increase borrowings (£525.6 million at 30th June 2020).

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Well, at least they don’t have to worry about their stadium for years.

What’s that, crumbling, you say?..

Crumbling? Surely you cannot be referring to the glistening orifice and monument to the colonic style that is old toilet? :roll_eyes:

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Needs some serious irrigation.

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Does our Mikey get credited with the £6 million (?) we’ve earned from Danny Ings transfer from Soton to Villa? :thinking:

Not least because - depending on whether the final fee was £25m or £30m - it’s actually £1-2m.

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I have a feeling that we may have jinxed Mikey.

Not possible. He’s got this.

Hopefully :crossed_fingers:

Still a fair lot to offload
Karius
Davies
Ojo
Shaqiri
Origi

As the window gets nearer the closing date some clubs start panicking and we may benefit from it.

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WTF :flushed: :rage:

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I mentioned this the other day but I don’t think it’s so much about how much we get for our outs anymore, but who leaves.

Just get the likes of Karius, Shaqiri and Origi off our books.

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If the main ones left are Karius, Phillips, Ojo, Shaqiri and Origi, I think most of them are going to stay or go on loan.

The problem is that everyone is trying to shift players at the minute. Everyone needs to sell.

Looks like Shaq is close, and there has been a bit of interest around Phillips, but we might be struggle with the others.

I agree to a certain extent. The way I see it is that with most transfer windows, unless a club has identified a player as 100% the player they want/need it can be a slow process and so everything happens last minute. I assume that because of the pandemic and as a result clubs operating on a tighter budget it will be even worse this year.
Additionally, it depends where you are as a club. For example, if you are newly promoted/usual relegation candidate then there are more options as numerous players can improve your side in said positions. The more successful a team the less options you have in bettering the player you already have.
So with the players we are trying to move on, the clubs will asses and see if there is another option that may not be as good in terms of calibre but will allow them to use resources elsewhere.
I know I never provided a list for the intent of this thread, but I believe Shaqiri will go, phillips will go, Davies will go on loan, Karius will go on loan and Neco Williams will go on loan with an option to buy. Taki will stay unless a good offer comes in but the rest of the cannon fodder will sign new deals, be sent on loan with the view/hope they impress and/or the market improves.

I’d never been confident on Karius, I thought it would end with club releasing him on a free but I did expect the rest to go relatively easily (not sure what happened with Ojo, I thought he would have been one of the first players to leave the club this summer after a rather decent loan spell at Cardiff). It looks like Shaqiri will leave well below his market value but that Origi will stay and likely not contribute much, just like last season.

I think Ojo has usually had little interest shown in him in previous years too, perhaps lower league clubs believe they can snag him on cheaper loan deals, than full out purchase.

This year many of the clubs appear to have fewer funds available for buying players, which further adds to that strategy.

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At this point I’d rather just keep Ojo around for the year. He’s out of contract at the end of the season so I doubt we will find a buyer now - let him train with the first team this year and see how he gets on.

He probably wouldn’t play a game but so what.

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