however, still have one of the highest wages groups in the PL so we aren’t flush with cash. Owners aren’t opposed to cash in on a player who has a high market value, to finance future projects and maintain wage structure. Phil’s sale largely financed what we see today.
Yeah but we needed to, Salah to all intents and purposes will end up being sell to buy.
that only scenario where we don’t have to buy is if he re-signs. All signs point to “not happening” with LFC not willing to break that £250/wk peak wage
So you sell and recoup some of the investment or you let him walk away in 2023. guys like Can and Divok and Wijnaldum can walk, but will they let their most valuable player go in the same manner?
Liverpool will know his projected drop off and whether it’s willing to sell. Darwin say goes up by 40m if you sell for 100m.
We’ve competed for 4 trophies in the final of the biggest and some want to sell our entire assets.
You know what whatever the club feel comfortable doing they have the money, they have the data and they have the facts.
Bored of it already, I don’t support a football club to wank over transfers and how much money we have.
4 Likes
I don’t think we need to sell Salah to do the business we need to do this year.
2 Likes
Despite this, the indications are that they pushed the boat out to persuade Coutinho to stay. It was not a willing sale.
Having being forced into it, they used the money very wisely.
1 Like
Mind you, speaking of Coutinho, right now if I was the director of another club looking at one of Liverpool’s top players, and the response was ‘yeah, you can have him’, I would immediately pull the plug on the deal.
1 Like
something tells me that’s not how the conversation would go.
But I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some vultures circling with interest on the best RW in the world during a failed contract extension. his “agent” isn’t covering him with favors either.
1 Like
let’s go through a hand-wavvy exercise and look at the next 3 years.
All those 30 or over by start of 2022 season: Firmino, Mo, Mane, Milner, Henderson, Thiago, VVD, Matip will be 33 to 35+ by the start of the 2025 season.
Add on let’s say a 50% likelihood that either Keita or Gomez (you may disagree) will be done for with injuries and you have 9 spots.
Let’s say youth take 2 or 3 of those 9 spots plus 2 more take up the roles for the likes of Origi and Minamimo (4 to 5 youth come through which is very good). You are left with 6 to 7 spots to cover through transfers.
It is now Ward taking over… And holding him to a 100% success rate for long-term planning would be folly… If we plan for a good 2/3 success rate, then we need to get 8 to 9 (2 fail).
Going by recent first-team purchases including add-ons (Diaz £49m, Jota £45m, Keita £52.75m, Thiago £20m + 5m addons)…
Average = £42.9m
8* 42.9m = 343.2m over 3 years. 9 * 42.9 = 386.1m
Even if let’s say we lower the average acquisition cost of our transfers to 30m… That is still a 240m to 270m spend.
Now we may or may not have used part of our summer budget with Diaz… So a 60m net budget extends between 130m to 180m over that same period.
Yes, some of the above players might still have one year left at the age of 33 to 35… But we also don’t have a record of spending 60m net per season so it won’t be easy.
Again… this just a simple exercise and we can probably save some money / make some money here or there but we do need to think about money. Not everyone can go for free.
Somewhere over the next few years we will need to do a lot of bargain hunting or sell a key player… Why not someone who doesn’t look like he’ll re-sign?
There is another exercise. You are the chief exec of Real/Barca/Bayern/PSG. Are you going to pay 100m for Salah, and put him on 400k a week? Or are you going to wait a year, and give him a fifth of that as a signing fee.
1 Like
By the way, I still think Salah resigns.
1 Like
The only way you go for Mo at 100m is if you think there will be competition for him if you don’t.
Would be great if he signs an extension but I’m not optimistic.
1 Like
Regards the squad for next season, being allowed 5 substitutes, it may alter the thinking for better alternatives on the bench so we can rotate more during the games… If we going for the quadruple again, we don’t want to be running on fumes over the last few games similar to this season. With this in mind, Curtis, Elliot and Carvalho might get more minutes during the match, so buying someone to play 90mins week in week out might be secondary to getting the right players at the right age and bed them slowly
I still hope he re-signs. But all signs point to his agent being a cunt. I’d rather pay Mane and Bobby at this point.
If he doesn’t extend, I’d sell him. I know that club’s hierarchy probably look at books and think they can afford letting such a player leave on a free but I think that it might set a dangerous precedent in the future with all the expiring contract the team currently has (though it’s not like Lallana, Can and Wijnaldum were huge losses - unless we’re looking from the perspective of their new clubs).
That said, I still think he leaves on a free but I think that his replacement will be sourced this summer - perhaps he’s already at the club, we’ll see.
1 Like
We’ve got a few players who either aren’t going to World Cup, or aren’t expected to go that far. Salah, Diaz, Milner, Keita, Matip won’t be there.
Thiago doesn’t get picked. Firmino hasn’t been a cert for Brazil. Curtis, Harvey and Fabio are too young.
Robertson, Mane, Kostas probably won’t get out of their group.
Henderson, Trent and Fabinho will go, but probably won’t see many minutes.
It could work out quite well for us.
3 Likes
I remember being gutted when Ian Rush left. Same when Kenny resigned. Angry when Owen left, a bit with Torres too.
This feels different. Maybe it’s the dip in form but also Klopp and the recruitment team. Nothing feels like a lottery anymore. We know the money will be invested well.
6 Likes
If he wants to sign a new deal on terms we can afford we will all be happy with that. He is a brilliant player.
If he wants to leave, and a suitable offer comes in, we will let him go. At that point I am confident we will reinvest the money wisely and continue to do well.
If he wants to wind his deal down and leave on a Bosman, we will have more than had our money’s worth. At that point, Mascot said it well, and a rested and focused Salah - summer break, midwinter break - will be a huge factor in achieving our goals next season.
Bottom line: what will be will be, and we will be fine no matter what happens!
5 Likes
Exactly. Perfect summary and no need for everybody wetting their pants for the last six months.
1 Like
Resigns or re-signs??