We can replace Salah and move on, it’ll take a rebuild and a year that might not go as smoothly. It doesn’t have to rely on players replicating the kind of phenomenal improvement we’ve seen with Salah and Jota when they joined us. Be nice if it happened but can’t be relied and planned on. It could be the kind of moves Mane, VvD and Alisson were.
You onto something, Mo does have cats, so maybe a contrcat? It’s quite the entanglement.
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the solution is clearly to only to try to buy shit players. Thery are plenty of them, which is makes it so much easier to replace them without a loss. this whole trying to be good thing is too hard.
I think that we’ll know soon what will happen here. I think that Salah’s extension might mean that either Firmino or Mane won’t be getting new contracts this summer, meaning one will be sold. Both are suffering a slump in form but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s actually the start of their decline, for lack of a better word. With Firmino it looks like a case of not being a perfect fit anymore, with Mane it’s more like a case of a player losing his self-confidence in front of goal.
Maybe Klopp has found his next centre forward in Jota, provided he manages to keep his first choice midfield injury-free and I think that midfield is bringing much more out of someone like Jota than someone like Firmino. As for Mane, he might just be my favourite Liverpool player since Stevie left and it might be just a bad spell for him but there haven’t been any reports of a new contract for him - perhaps it’s something I’m reading to much into but that lack of rumours coupled with his form in front of goal actually has me worried about his Liverpool future.
I hope that Klopp can win at least one big trophy before he leaves Liverpool but I’m not counting on it under current circumstances (injuries, COVID, rivals’ spending etc.). As for Salah himself, I hope that he can remain at Liverpool for a long while. I’d have a problem with him being sold even for a king’s ransom this summer almost as much as if he left on a free the next one, to be honest.
Pre-injury Van Dijk notwithstanding, he’s as closest as a Liverpool player can objectively be to the status of world’s best football player. Defenders fear and respect him, he scores and assists, he has pace to burn (and hopefully will while he’s at Liverpool), he just fits this team. He’s not perfect, not any player is, but I’m afraid that his departure, coupled with Klopp’s, might reduce the overall status of the side, that players will start looking at it as a stepping stone like Coutinho and Suarez did.
As a side note, I think we’re about to see just how much we miss him (and Mane), which will likely strengthen his hand in negotiations.
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You could certainly make an argument that by choosing not to pay a competitive salary to a best in the world contender and encouraging him into moving on to another top team that can, well we would voluntarily be making ourselves a stepping stone club, even despite the wishes of the players.
never argue with idiot, it draws you down to their level.
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And cats were a deity in ancient Egypt. This is worth exploring further.
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maaateee!
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I look at the trouble Barca got themselves into with trying to hold onto Messi and his massive salary. Suddenly their payroll spirals out of control. They developed a reputation as a honeypot. Poor management
If Salah’s demands break the salary constraints for LFC to be able to operate within FFP constraints and budget, then he’ll have to be sold and try to generate funds to buy a replacement. it is what it is. I don’t have a problem with the club acting responsibly in these times as long as the books are open. the club has spent a lot of money in infrastructure between the stadium expansion, player purchases and Kirkby. with revenues down and having to re-sign a LOT of key players, Salah’s sale may be key to someone like Bellingham coming here to replace our aging midfielders.
We will need to replace Salah, maybe Harvey is that key piece or the other kid whose name I cannot remember that scored in the Shrewsbury game.
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I am going to try and pivot this dumpster fire of a thread a different direction since my popcorn ran out.
I am buying what this guy is saying. I think if we were really at a stall point in the negotiations, there’d be more rumors floating around about destinations he could go to this summer. Realistically speaking, the agent would’ve brought in some competitive offers from potential destinations, which would’ve caused some waves in tabloids by someone. We haven’t heard much on this front, and especially during an open transfer window? I believe the contract is signed. It is done and dusted, and we definitely won’t be doing any incoming business this window. Mo wants his statue and he’s going to get his statue
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to be fair, at least Messi was still producing. Far more of a problem for them was the financial commitment they had to players they didnt want and contributed nothing. I mean, just with Phil, Dembele and Umtiti they were on the hook for a million euro a week and many a week found themselves with none of those lads even making the bench.
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absolutely, but once you start paying astronomical amounts for your top talent “aka best in the world” how long is it going to take the the rest of the salaries to creep up. pay £30-40mil just to sign the player (on a bargain), now you have to spend a similar amount amortized over 4-5 years to retain them in salary. Then if you are able to re-sign them, that number creeps up to £15-20mil/yr for 5 years. that single player has now cost you £160-200mil… for ONE player.
As a numbers guy, if Mo is asking for £350-400k/wk I cannot see LFC breaking their established salary model for Mo. because Sadio will be next.
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There’s been no talk about Mane or Bobby’s contract. On their day still brilliant but those days have been become fewer and farther between last 2 years or so. All this strengthens Mo’s hand in negotiations. Would they really sell Mo, or more likely see him leave on a free, and keep a declining Mane and/or Bobby? The chances of us replacing all three in the next 18 months are zero so something’s got to give. Whenever I think about the Mo situation logically it all points towards us doing everything we can to keep him. Not doing so makes no sense from a footballing perspective and not much from a financial one either.
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These Adidas trainers Mo have on are fire.
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What? I’m not sure you’ve accurately described the process. Even at £20m per year, nearly 400k a week, they’d have to be here for like 10 years on that salary from day one. If we’ve got a player who is signed for only £40m but good enough to be put on £400k a week and spends ten years here I think that player must be one for future history books!
seriously man, piss off. I know how to do basic math. evidently, you do not.
Signing fee 40mil
first contract 200/week @ 4yrs = 40mil
contract renewal signing fee - 10/15mil
second contract 350/week @ 5yrs = 90mil
Now stop wasting my time.
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Should an extension not be agreed I wouldn’t be surprised if they do let Mo go on a free. He never downs tools and would still be around his peak.
Not if Nike are going to foot the bill like when we signed Mbappe…
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OK you’re adding the fee and signing bonuses in that you didn’t mention fair enough makes more sense now. I’m still not really seeing that as a bad thing though? A £40m player who is not only good enough for £200k a week from day 1 but good enough to extend his deal with a payrise? Who spends 9 years here? Great!
you’re quoting things out of context, as usual. you must be bored or something, chicken little.