New European Super League

However it is the truth for many, including me and he has the right to proclaim that!
The EPL has become a product that doesn’t support the pyramid or grassroots.
This product that came about by fans going to grounds is now dominated by ‘football tourism’, exectutive boxes that are often empty yet someone pays for that anyway.
Barnes whether he earned money or not can tell this truth whether you wish to hear it or not!

Anyway enough of this distraction, try listening and understanding instead. Btw I understand what the super league was about to a certain extent and I have rejected it like many others. Even if financially for the founding clubs it made sense.

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I don’t see how you can blame the players for maximising their earnings? If normal employment operated the same way that competitive sport does the same thing would happen.

The origins of the Premier League wasn’t so as to pay the players more money but to make more money for the owners. But in any competitive industry where success depends on the quality of individuals the more money that comes in the pay demands will increase proportionally, unless otherwise regulated across the industry.

Since Bosman football has stepped on to a never-ending escalator of increasing revenue so as to attract the best players and it has been unconstrained by wage caps or moral integrity. We’re never going to solve this issue without regulatory restrictions on salaries and transfer fees. Don’t blame the players, blame the governing bodies and the clubs for not appreciating that such measures ought to be at the bedrock of any FFP regulations for the game to avoid ending up exactly where it currently is. But no, everybody has been too busy thinking they can make more money than the year before and more than their rivals and money is good. Football is made up of thousands of Gordon Geckos.

It’s going to need a market crash and big clubs to go broke for it to be reset and this pandemic has provided the precise environment for it to happen. If we don’t take the opportunity now it’s unlikely we’ll get another one.

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I really hope Perez and Madrid flounder. I don’t know how it works in Spain, but the fact they are £1bn in debt (or is it Euro?), and struggling shows how fked the system is, and I for one will not be shedding a single tear if they go into administration or whatever. Would love to see them trashed down the the 2nd division for it all, a bit like what happened to Rangers a few years ago.

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Definitely, but I’d much rather 600k per week.

If that grand or 2 was an average back then, well then it took them 3-6 weeks to earn what I did(6k) in a year.
Forward that to now and it takes them 3-6 days to earn what someone doing really well earns in a year.

Footballers who played before PL began earned good money, while they played only. Footballers after PL began have steadily increased to a point where the average player could play for a year or 2 and retire if they wanted. The difference in what players like Barnes and Fashanu earned at their peak, while great then, is pittance compared to what their modern day equivalent earns. They no longer earn great money, they earn astronomical amounts now.

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Ye I agree with all the points above.

Fact is that it’s a beast which is out of control and when does the bubble burst.

Years ago I used to think, fuck the owners, let the players have the extra money, but then the players began to earn too much and the owners weren’t the ones to lose out. We, the fans were now paying for 2 groups to get rich instead of one.

Maybe something could be done where a certain amount of the profits have to go back into the clubs infrastructure, local community and reduction of ticket prices.

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@MCG26 welcome to TAN.

May I add, all those elements that lead to the ESL turbulences still remains and will most probably remain AND none of those who saved football, UEFA, PL, Sky; will do shit to rectify those mistakes.

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I don’t think that’s true for all of them though reforms will undoubtably be too slow, hit walls, be scoffed at … It’s a jungle out there!
Soo many things need reform I would be happy with little steps however most want wholesale reform yet soo much of the wanted reforms are contradictory and as we see it’s highly politicised as well which in sport is always a big downer. Perhaps the 1st thing to reform is our own ideas about what sport constitutes?
Whatever I feel we are going to go from one big mess to another like always. :cry:

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Loving your current Perez focus, keep 'em coming.

Watching him squirm is another huge bonus to emerge from the last few days…

It really is quite ghoulishly fascinating.

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And in a direct response to Florentino…I fucking love watching all our CL games, GROUP STAGE INCLUDED, so he can go suck a cat’s wang on that one.

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fuck perez . fuck real madrid. won the european cup the most times and yet devalue the competition by playing games in a fucking training ground! - next season it will be “our aim is to win the champions league” FUCK OFF!

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Whilst I entirely agree with you - fuck Madrid - I think them playing their games in the training ground isn’t them devaluing the competition - they’re part way through renovations at the Bernebau.

I see Perez has had a dig at Klopp, referncing Kiev and this years CL 1/4 final result - he really is No.1 Cunt.

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Now it’s Agnelli’s turn!

https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1384813854950051844
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1384817093539946505
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https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1385116965178650624
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https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1385117432717664257
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1385174384428687362
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https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1385194696037785602

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It is going to be really interesting now to see where Real Madrid and Barcelona go now.

Linkee GIF by Big Potato Games

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Am waiting for them and then the likes of Chelsea, City all getting karma of their bad management/ cheating hit back at them… am still waiting sadly.

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Imagine Real Madrid and Barca doing a Leeds.

Brilliant! and Arthur Drewry of Grimsby was Preseident of FIFA? By 'eck!

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