Overseas (potentially now retired) officials. Just an independent, non-judgmental extra set of eyes that can advise the ref.
It’s not to override them. It’s an extra tool that should make their job easier.
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All must have eye tests before taking the job…
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Scottish referees are sponsored by Specsavers. Just saying.
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Also one is leader of the Scottish Conservatives.
Get the lad operating the system to do it. He was the one who actually spotted the situation on Diaz
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Will this help match going supporters who, under the system until date, have been left waiting to find out what’s going on for minutes at a time? Cna’t get reception during games at most stadiums, so I assume not.
We’ve previously talked about the refs being mic’d up - I noticed that this happened when watching the highlights of the Olympics gold medal match - sounded a bit adolffy to be honest, when he awarded that last min pen to France.
Yeah, that and I doubt it will be updated in real time enough to make sense of a confusion for the in stadium fans. We’ll see though.
The whole mic’d up thing has been a massive let down because all it does is explain what whereas almost all of the debate is over the why
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I didn’t see much of it during the Olympics, as didn’t watch any of the footy.
You are right, that the debate is often over why, but the what helps massively to the fans also, which is not available (to match going fans). As per rugby, the refs calls are subjective at times, but they still explain it (the what), and most importantly, they get the respect from the players (most of the time)
They have trialed it in a couple of other tournaments. I think it was the women’s world cup last year where it got most attention. Even then it is only used in limited circumstances, I think only when a ref has been the monitor and overturned a decision. And then they just explain what decision has been given. For instance if they are cancelling a handball penalty they will just say it is no longer a handball, they wont explain why they changed their mind.
Time for us to re-learn the rules of football, and how they will be applied (probably wrongly) by the refs.
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Or we could be like the UK refs and just make it up as we go.
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Inconsistent already.
West Ham penalty very dubious.
Ipswich keeper on Diaz brushed away without comment.
Fuck I hate what this game has become
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Weird outcome in the Everton game as well with the penalty overturned without the ref being able to see it at the monitor because of technical issues. It was the right decision but another example of them only sticking to the protocol when they want to.
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Liverpool and Arsenal will be VAR guinea pigs in new trial aiming for ‘greater clarity’
Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Newcastle will be the guinea pigs for a new VAR trial that PGMOL says hopes to “provide greater clarity and understanding”
English football is set to trial in-stadium VAR announcements for the first time.
The new idea will be trialled in next week’s Carabao Cup semi-finals first legs when Arsenal face Newcastle United and Liverpool play Tottenham Hotspur.
It will see referees announce the final VAR decision following a visit to the pitch side monitor. Or make public a decision following the conclusion of factual matters, such as handball by a goalscorer or offside offences where the attacker has touched the ball.
The move has been introduced by the PGMOL in a bid to reduce confusion following controversial decisions, as well as speed up games. To prepare for the upcoming change, referees have undertaken special training.
This includes seeing them go on training camps and officiate in a series of match-related exercises in club stadiums. A PGMOL statement said: “The trial, which forms part of our broader commitment to transparency, including providing greater clarity and understanding around key decisions, will run over both legs of the Arsenal vs Newcastle United and Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool ties.”
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"Welcome to your PGMOL training course. We will now start the lesson.
Make sure you screw Liverpool.
You can now go home."
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Sadly that won’t really clear up confussion, all it does is let the ref tell fans his final opinion. They need to follow both Rugby codes and broadcast the entire conversation between on field and VAR officials.
Sadly PGMOL won’t allow this as it will show up which refs are biased, which are likely on the take and which are just incompitent and clueless.
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Dale Johnson had an interesting comment on the Felix offside decision. He claims it took so long because Felix was blocking the view of the Ipswich defender’s foot so they were struggling to be able to draw a line. In the end they just used their eyesight to say “he’s clearly off”.
Now, recall the Saka goal from a couple of seasons ago that looked like he was offside. In that case there ended up being no VAR review because they could not find a single camera that showed Saka, the defender, and the ball in the same shot. We were told then that the official protocol is VAR can overturn an offside decision only with the use of the lines drawn from the calibrated cameras, and as that was not possible in that case they had to stick with the on field decision.
I think it is reasonable to claim Felix was far more obviously offside than Saka was, and you cannot argue with the final decision. But this is very definitely at odds with the official explanation we were given over the process with that Saka goal.
Does anyone recall any more of the details than I can?
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Even their attempts at transparency are utter bollocks.
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